South Beach Sessions - Dave Barry
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Who is Dave Barry and what makes him notable?
Lookie here, an old-timey newspaper writer. They still make those. A dinosaur from the golden age of newspapers. When a man can win a Pulitzer Prize for being funny. He's a New York Times best-selling author. He's a colleague of mine for decades. He is Dave Barry. He's a novelist whose last novel, I will tell you, I will give you one of the greatest compliments I think I can give.
You actually read it.
Made me feel like I was reading Carl Hiaasen. Oh, that is – I'll take that. Right? I'll take that compliment. But you would say that Swamp Story – and I want to talk to you about your career. I want to talk to you about your life because I find you, beyond the laughter, to be uncommonly wise about what matters in life. Well, that's not – Accurate, but okay. That love, that love is what matters. You have been, you, in seeking marital bliss, were a bit of a mentor to me on what could be possible.
Well, I told you to get married, but that's because I'm married to a Cuban Jewish woman who couldn't stand, could not stand the idea that you were walking around not being married. And I'm a guy, and I'm thinking, well, he's dating a lot of very attractive women. Why shouldn't he get married?
That was my feeling.
But I would not say that. But Michelle was pretty much determined that you should marry somebody, preferably immediately. Because I remember once, and I hope your current wife, who's a beautiful woman, is not listening to this right now, or ever, but... But we went out to dinner with you. You may not remember this. My wife, Michelle, and I went out with the woman you were dating at the time. I do remember this.
It was like Miss Venezuela. We were in Miami Beach. I remember several lovely evenings with you having too much to drink. One at Marlin Spring Training and this evening that you're talking about.
Right. And Michelle was like hectoring you to marry this woman immediately. And the woman was like all for it, I think. Whatever she was. She was very practical. Not as attractive as your current wife, but very attractive. Please stop doing this. But you resisted. I was impressed. I would have eventually just given up and said, okay, let's go get married right now here at the restaurant.
Okay, so, but aspirationally, I will tell people that your marriage was aspirational. You wanted to marry my wife? Yes. the happiness that you two had, the camaraderie that you two had, the friendship that you two had, the understanding and acceptance that you two have, the laughter that you two have, you seemed, from where I was standing, to have found bliss after someone who had written about his previous marriage in print, and it seemed like the reader felt totally betrayed by your first marriage not succeeding. Like somehow you had done something wrong when all I saw you do was choose bliss.
Yeah. Well, thank you. That is a nice way of putting it. And you're right, I did get a lot of grief. Because when you write a humor column, or any kind of column, you wrote a column for years, people... think they know you, and they really don't know you, they know what you present to them. In my case, the wacky, funny, hilarious guy. And I had written for years about my family, my son, and everything. And then when I got a divorce, and I won't go into why, but I mean, it was 110% my responsibility, my fault. I got a lot. I mean, people were really not happy with me.
And to this day, there are people who... Well, but they feel... Let's talk about the connection a newspaper writer makes through laughter, because the audience somehow felt let down by you. But I was watching. I don't know you at this point. I just know what you're getting into and how much happier it seems to make you. So... None of that is important to me. I just see a colleague who seems to be really happy with a friend of mine who also seems to be really happy. Why wouldn't I celebrate that for them? But then you waited a long time before you personally got married, I have to say. I did. Well, I didn't believe in the institution.
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