The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: The Dog and Pony Show (feat. David Samson)
23 Oct 2025
Chapter 1: What is the significance of the gambling scandal in the NBA?
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Chapter 2: How does Adam Silver plan to address the gambling issues?
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We have a lot going on here today. Amin has been pulled out because he's got to get to New York to help Pablo because we've got a breaking story in the NBA that has echoing ramifications. Because Amin has left, Tony has sped in, and he has rushed in to tell us that everything the FBI is doing is total bullshit.
It's absolute bullshit. The guy behind me, instead of doing the most important things and figuring out the things we actually want, is going after what the government wants more than anything. It's a cut of illegal gambling, okay? That's the only reason they're in here doing anything at all. It's because they want a cut.
If they were in Vegas and everything was okay, or New Jersey or whatever, it wouldn't be an issue. But now since it's happening all across the places that they can't get their paws on, now they want a piece of it. Classic reliever right there. Comes in throwing 102. It's the players and the coaches being involved.
It's 102. But also he's got some breakfast in his mouth. He's late. He's making reckless accusations.
Late is objective.
That don't have information in them.
Late is objective?
Subjective. Subjective. Late is objective. It's empirical. You're late. You're an hour late. It's not subjective. David Sampson's always on time. Nothing personal is the name of his podcast. Can you give me some informed information as opposed to Tony just coming in and saying the government wants a cut of Rozier salad They do.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Terry Rozier's situation?
He's speaking to the union right now because he needs to put Terry Rozier out. He'll be on administrative leave the way MLB puts its players away, like Emmanuel Class A. The Heat will not be having him on the roster, but he will still get paid. The Trailblazers have to announce that they have a new coach ready to go tomorrow for their game against the Warriors. Then all of this has to be
they're watching the 10 a.m live like we are but they're working on releases that will be ready certainly by early afternoon because action will have to be taken today it's a bad day for adam silver but that's what he's doing right now he's not focused on investigating rosier he's coming up with talking points to address what to do currently and then how to answer the question of hey your investigators found nothing what did you miss what process
Did you do that you look back on as being wrong? But that he will not answer.
What's your best theory there on what happened? How does the NBA clear Terry Rozier when, among other details, there was a gambler who played, you know, placed 30 wagers in 46 minutes on exclusively Terry Rozier? What can Adam Silver say that isn't just total incompetence or cover-up as it regards them just clearing Terry Rozier?
Yeah, what you say is that given the information we had at the time, we always tell you that things can change. Like the way he's talked about the Clippers and Aspiration. He'll give you a thought with today, but with Pablo dripping and drabbing out more information, he has the right to change his mind. And that's what he's going to say about Rozier. Hey, given where we were then,
This is what our decision was, and we were right. Since then, it's come to our attention that the following happened. Had we known then what we know now, clearly he would not have been cleared.
David, you can't go from clearing somebody to he's arrested in Orlando while he's on, you know. By the FBI. You can't go from he's cleared to the first game of the season somewhere near the bench, he's being let off in handcuffs. Well, it's...
First of all, he has a hamstring injury. He was not let off the bench in handcuffs. I assume they went to the team hotel. Two, you can absolutely have new facts that come up when you're making decisions, running your company, which you're not doing anymore.
But if you were, do you not agree that certain things change that leads you to make different decisions today that you would have made yesterday? Yeah.
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Chapter 4: What does the investigation reveal about Chauncey Billups?
He's saying that what you're saying is ridiculous. And I would say that's ridiculous. Well, what he said that was ridiculous is... that Adam Silver got information and he got information on Chauncey Billups. And initially he thought, oh, I hope this isn't games. And then when he found out it was merely a poker game with the mafia, he bent over and out his ass came a song that was whistling Dixie.
That's far more ridiculous than what it is that you allege, which is a happiness so great that song came from his rectum.
i mean so i spoke to nba sources this morning already and before we knew what chauncey billups was we went through the level of the issue that could be in front of us the top level is betting against your team while you're coaching betting for your team while your coaching is right below it betting against or for other teams that games you're not involved in below that
betting illegally on sports that's not basketball below that. We didn't even put poker on the list.
Guys, again, we don't know the information shared at this poker games, which according to the reporting, and I assume I can only assume that part will be covered in today's press conference. I don't think it's a poker game. We have no idea what kind of inside information, that's a direct quote from these articles, was shared.
I imagine a head coach in the NBA is privy to all sorts of inside information that gamblers would love about the state of the entire league, not just their team. They play in divisions. They know all these teams like the back of their hand. They do scouting. There is a lot of inside information and insight that you can get. Also, betting on your team to win should be legal, by the way.
Just put that out there.
Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Should betting on your team to win be legal? Did you get me some information on Dog and Pony Show, please?
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Chapter 5: How do the hosts view the FBI's involvement in sports?
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All right, Dan, dog and pony shows come from small traveling circuses in the 1800s and vaudeville acts where dog and ponies would literally do tricks, jump through hoops, pull little things, dance, do certain things like that. Basically, a smaller traveling circus for people that were out in the country that couldn't get to big cities to see circuses. You know about those vaudeville acts?
Had one yesterday here, Babe Ruth.
I do know something about vaudeville acts. Greg Cody knows a great deal more. I also am ashamed to say that in Amsterdam one time I walked into a pony show without knowing it was a pony show, and it was not a dog and pony show, and I regretted it as soon as I got there.
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Chapter 6: What are the potential consequences for the Miami Heat?
Adam Silver did op-ed pieces trying to stop it. As recently as a few days ago, Adam Silver was on the air talking about, hey, can we ease up on the prop bet thing? So Adam Silver has really put himself in a position to not look very good here. But you brought up a point that is true, which is if we hear at 10 o'clock that Chauncey Billups was in debt at a poker game, Mafia-related.
And instead of giving up his Rolex, he instead gave up the fact that he will make sure that Greg Oden doesn't get five rebounds. Greg Oden.
Greg Oden. Last time he paid attention to the trailblazers. Jesus, Greg Oden.
Bonzi Wells.
He meant Arvidas Sabonis. Keep it moving. Can you just keep it moving, Dan?
Greg Oden, I'm pretty sure his career ended before Chauncey Billups has started.
Guys, we all got Dale Davis over seven and a half boards. Let's continue. I couldn't think of a current trailblazer immediately.
This is not scripted. We're all getting the news quickly. If Chauncey Billups, Mike, is giving up that information, that is a whole different story. That rises above the level of actually betting against your own team that you're coaching. That is the fifth rail of the third rails. But we'll see what the FBI says. But to me, if that's why Chauncey Billups was arrested,
That is that's very different, Mike. And then Adam Silver will not be whistling Dixie. He will be shooting darts.
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Chapter 7: What insights does David Sampson provide on the press conference?
Is he gonna say that he knew about the prop bets on himself and then his performance reflected that? Is he going to say Chauncey Billups played cards with bad guys or that he actually gave information to bad guys?
Look, I don't think, David, I don't think it's possible. Again, I'm speculating because it's three minutes from now. I don't believe.
that you throw chauncey billups into this particular cesspool where you cost him his job and his name on the same day unless there's something here beyond he was playing in poker games like even playing in poker games with shady characters my guess is there has to be something here if you're going to smear this man who's got to to date he's got an impeccable reputation chauncey does not
That's not accurate, actually. If you look, there was an opportunity. I had to wait to see that he would actually not end up coaching one game with the Trailblazers. He does not have an impeccable reputation. But anyway, I don't want to bother you. Go ahead.
Jeremy, give me the sexual assault.
Yeah.
paid off jeremy that's all right there i can give you updates on uh the details in just a moment there was a there was an allegation against him um from a night in 1997 um there was evidence that um matched up with what that allegation was there were no charges i will go from there
OK, forgive me. It's not an impeccable reputation because Chauncey Billups, before he was hired as Portland coach, it did come up that he had a case in, I believe, in 1997. But if you're going to get to the point where this is something that you're doing to Chauncey Billups or anyone like him with similar name, it's not going to just be poker game with mafia members.
There's got to be something else here.
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts conclude the discussion on the gambling scandal?
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Restrictions apply. Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?
Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is won when it hasn't hit triple zero. Mm-hmm. Always drink your JƤgermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion. Everything else? Everything else. Wearing clean underwear every day? Well, that's just a personal decision. Brushing your teeth? Obviously smart, but not a rule.
Never pee-pee on an electric fence?
Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, JƤgermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold.
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