The Big Suey: Who Killed The Montreal Expos? (Starring David Samson)

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Stugotz 0:02
Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
Unknown 0:17
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
Stugotz 0:23
That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
Unknown 0:31
As I mentioned, David Sampson and Amin Alhassan have been very helpful to Pablo Torre in helping contextualize what is a thicket of complicated subject matter. And David Sampson joins us now. His podcast, Nothing Personal, as I've told you many times, covers terrain by himself that a whole lot of people are not covering. Pablo is way out in front of this story. And David, you have familiarity with PR crisis. You have a familiarity with scandal and how businesses can handle scandal. Have you ever seen your entire history in sports The documentation that Pablo has that can come this close to feeling like the most damning of circumstantial evidence on proving something is a rule break by a really powerful, rich person and organization because I just cannot believe the amount of information that Pablo has that has everyone saying by consensus, I miss this kind of journalism.
Unknown 1:36
I can't believe how locked down he has this story.
David Samson 1:40
Well, he's got the sources inside Aspiration and inside the finance department of Aspiration. And what the finance department has are documents like bank statements, like investor agreements. And what Pablo did, and this is, I took issue with this with Pablo. I don't like going into these tapings and I don't know what he wants to talk about. So I don't have time to prepare anything. And Amin and I are just looking at each other with a folder of documents that we can't look at. And then all of a sudden he's rolling and that becomes an episode. And so what he enjoys is that mystery box. Hey, look at the surprise of Samson and Amin. But what's in those folders What you're seeing in the episode is my actual reaction to it because we didn't know that it was Dennis Wong who had put $2 million in or 1.99 in December of 22.
David Samson 2:35
We didn't know the payment that went to Kawhi Quarterly for his $28 million four-year no-show contract with Aspiration. And all of a sudden you see it. And in real time, you're trying to seem smart while you're live to tape. And you're looking at something saying, Adam Silver just met the media saying that the burden of proof is on the NBA and that the public doesn't know what it's talking about. And by the way, I've never heard of aspiration. And I'm thinking to myself, God, is he getting bad advice? I can't believe this is what Silver's doing. And now we've got this information. It's game set match to me when it comes to the investigation. But I've seen leagues contort themselves to make a result they want very often, like with steroids.
David Samson 3:24
So I do believe that there's still an opportunity for the NBA and the Clippers to get through this because they'll just pretend that what Pablo did is not real.
Unknown 3:33
Okay, I think that's going to be hard to do given what it is that we're about to play for the audience. But before I play more modulated voices, you mentioned Adam Silver. I didn't think he had a great week this week in a couple of different places. One, the way that he talked about streaming services and that the customer's going to get screwed and the customer's got to deal with it.

How does David Samson reflect on his role in the Montreal Expos story?

Unknown 3:51
But also how he handled the Pablo investigation. Hold on, David, you'll be able to correct me in a second. Let's get to the Adam Silver sound first. where he's reacting to not even today's Pablo report, because that was today at 5 a.m., and it's more damning. This is before the damning of today's 5 a.m. report.
Adam Silver 4:10
The podcast came out. It was news to me. I... frankly, never heard of the company Aspiration before, and I'd never heard a whiff of anything around an endorsement deal with Kawai or anything around engagement with the Los Angeles Clippers.

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