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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 3 – Dan Wetzel, Gambling Horror Stories

28 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 1.453 Dan Patrick

This is an iHeart Podcast.

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39.647 - 54.388 Michael Easter

2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter. And on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world.

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put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person.

62.683 - 70.656 Michael Easter

Listen to 2%. That's T-W-O percent on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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On the Look Back At It podcast. 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year.

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This space is about Black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men...

Chapter 2: What is Brendan Sorsby's gambling case about?

596.216 - 598.506 Dan Patrick

Well, next controversy, we'll reach out.

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I'm always here for you. Always here for you.

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600.621 - 625.566 Dan Patrick

Dan Wetzel, ESPN senior writer, College Game Day podcast. I did reach out to a source on this who said that there is a company. It's called Prohibbet. So prohibit it, but it's B-E-T, Prohibbet. It's a compliance driven app. Every student athlete is required to. to download on their phone.

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626.248 - 655.648 Dan Patrick

The app notifies universities when athletes attempt to sign up for betting platforms or place prohibited wagers. That was the case at Cincinnati and Texas Tech. Because I was wondering what safeguards and I'm not putting this on the NCAA because really this is about the gambling sites, FanDuel, DraftKings, Vegas. They're the ones that this is their business.

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657.411 - 676.435 Dan Patrick

NCAA doesn't have the manpower to be able to. kind of monitor all of this. And usually what they get is somebody tells them, gives them a heads up. Somebody does the investigative work. Guys like Dan Wetzel, Pat Forty, Pete Thamel, they do the work and then all of a sudden the NCAA comes in. Yeah, Pauline.

676.415 - 689.011 Paulie

When I look at some of these stories about Sorsby, it feels like a lot of the accusations are from three and a half years ago at Indiana. I wonder if the safeguards are now catching up and maybe curtailed his betting over the past couple of years.

689.031 - 712.477 Dan Patrick

Yeah, but Cincinnati knew about this. I don't think you just do it once or you kind of do it. I'm just going by firsthand knowledge that you're always gambling. Now, I never got to the point where I was gambling on baseball or hockey. But I bet on preseason football. I remember the Hall of Fame game.

712.757 - 720.646 Paulie

I bet on that. No, it's bad. That's bad. Absolutely. There is no trends with the Hall of Fame game. You're going in blind at the better.

722.147 - 749.796 Dan Patrick

And I did. But you get caught up and you think, well, hey, it's Saturday. Who am I betting on? Now I can start on Thursday. Then I've got Saturday, Saturday night, Sunday, Sunday night, Monday, Monday night. It's there. It's constant. And it becomes part of your routine. And it might, you might, you know, maybe you make a little bit of money. Maybe you're not losing much money.

Chapter 3: How does modern betting technology impact college athletes?

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Somebody I trusted and was manipulating me twice and once in college basketball, once in the NBA. But, hey, you know, you learn from those things. Let's see. Kirk in Mississippi. Hi, Kirk.

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D.P., greetings from the deep south. That's it. First time caller, long time listener since the dibble days. You guys are awesome. I talked with Tyler. I've got experience with this and treating folks.

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923.828 - 933.12 Dylan

I worked in the treatment field for about 23 years in recovery myself. I started working in the field with two and a half years of sobriety.

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And when the casinos hit Mississippi in the late 90s, we found out we weren't asking the right questions on our intake because we had a lot of folks that came through the treatment center that had gambling addictions and never got addressed.

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946.896 - 956.914 Dan Patrick

So we started asking the right questions, and the only success we saw were with the folks that did it through a 12-step program.

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You know, as with any, with any disorder, sex addiction, eating disorders, the gambling, you know, the first step is you're meant, you're powerless over whatever it is and your life's unmanageable. And so, uh, I told Tyler, I also, uh, rescued my mom and her gambling two or three times, uh, ended up costing me about 25 grand when it was all said and done, but she didn't work on paying that back.

982.125 - 1010.613 Dan Patrick

And then I got her treated and, uh, She died gambling free. Yeah, it's getting that, and I've had some people who have corresponded, of it's addiction. It doesn't matter what addiction it is. It's kind of trying to find out what is it that you get from this. When does it come up? How does it start? What's the genesis of this? It's like drinking or smoking a cigarette.

1011.414 - 1015.538 Dan Patrick

There's certain triggers where you go, I got to place a bet. Yeah, Dill.

1016.108 - 1026.301 Dylan

I think the tough thing with the gambling is it's like you're not going to get found with like a needle in your arm, you know, like it's insidious in the way that there's no physically it doesn't harm you.

Chapter 4: What are the potential consequences for athletes who gamble?

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Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Stugatz here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow. And I have brought it here to IHARP. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house.

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It's called Stugatz and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day.

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

1119.772 - 1135.657 Michael Easter

2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world.

1136.257 - 1147.635 Michael Easter

I'll be speaking with writers, researchers, and other health and fitness experts and more to look past the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry.

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We really believe that seed oils were inherently inflammatory. We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are the result of stress. Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person.

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Listen to 2%, that's T-W-O percent, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 5: What safeguards are in place for college athletes regarding gambling?

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And there's a golf one that looks funny. There's another comedy one, like a cop movie that looks funny. But then he's got one. I'm not going to give any names. That's like a courtroom drama serious movie. Maybe I could be the judge. That's your spot. Okay. Give me a little case dismissed. Case dismissed.

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There you go. I want order in the court. Here you go. Audition. Thank you. Yes, Marvin. Speaking of order, you're best friends with Christopher Maloney from Law & Order SVU. So maybe you can be like a DA or like a prosecutor?

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2488.438 - 2516.775 Dan Patrick

Not as good of friends as maybe I thought I was when I went over to him and he was having dinner. Oh, that's when I tried to show off for my daughters because my one daughter has seen every episode. She goes, Dad, you know Christopher Maloney? I go, yeah, yeah, he's been on the show. He's right over there. Well, now you got me. Can we go say hello? I said, sure. I walk over. I go, Chris.

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2517.676 - 2548.011 Dan Patrick

And he looks up. He goes, hi. And I go, oh. I said, Dan Patrick. He goes, oh, okay. I go, no, you've been on the show before? He goes, yeah. And I can feel like my daughter is pulling me away. Just like, let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. And then, of course, we eventually had him back on, and then he apologized because it was two great actors talking to each other.

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2548.151 - 2552.136 Dan Patrick

I didn't realize he was acting like he didn't like me. And he did a really good job.

2552.176 - 2572.961 Paulie

Yes, Paul? Hearing your story again, here's your mistake. You didn't say, Chris, Dan Patrick. And he would go, of course, because sometimes at a restaurant up close, you don't recognize someone in three seconds. I think you should have done the, Dan Patrick. Of course, Dan. What's up, DP? Paul, the voice. I know, I know. Like the voice. That's all he needs.

2573.302 - 2576.59 Paulie

But Chris Merloni, he didn't have like a gun and badge on him. You might not have recognized him.

2576.851 - 2587.195 Dan Patrick

Yeah, but he should have heard the voice and just that's it. He could have closed his eyes. And he'd go, Dan, is that you? Yes, it is, Chris. Yes, Todd.

2587.215 - 2596.066 Unknown

But that wouldn't have impressed your daughter as much if you had her introduce yourself and give a whole back story of whatever. She wants to know that you guys know each other. You're saying, hey, remember me? I'm this guy, and you did my show.

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