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The David Pakman Show

Fool me twice, shame on…wait, what?

16 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 7.02 David Pakman

A forensic pathologist claims Jeffrey Epstein was strangled, not that he died by suicide.

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Chapter 2: What claims does Michael Baden make about Jeffrey Epstein's death?

7.12 - 26.023 David Pakman

The Internet is exploding. But is there actually anything new here or is it the same old claim being recycled again? We're going to break down the facts and the science. Also, Trump's Epstein problem is getting dramatically worse. New hearings and allegations tied directly to Mar-a-Lago. and growing pressure for answers.

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Also today, we're going to expose what the plan looks like to control the 2026 election.

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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the House Democrats' shadow hearing on Epstein?

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And most importantly, after looking at the efforts to shape who votes are explained, we're going to talk about what can actually be done about this. Plus, Marjorie Taylor Greene, formerly one of Trump's biggest allies, drops a bomb claiming Trump personally was fighting to block the Epstein files while publicly saying he's all about transparency.

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And later, why do so many of the current economic experts so-called keep saying the Dow is at fifty thousand dollars, which doesn't make any sense? You might not be shocked to learn that the emperors have no clothes. All of that and more. It's a new week.

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Chapter 4: How is David's new book 'Pay Attention' relevant to today's media landscape?

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It's a full week here at the show. Over the last 48 hours, a whole bunch of you emailed me saying, David, a doctor has just blown the Jeffrey Epstein suicide wide open. It wasn't a suicide. It was a homicide. He didn't hang himself.

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Chapter 5: What voting restrictions are being proposed by Trump and his allies?

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He was strangled. David, you have to see this. This is it. We finally have it. Well, let's discuss. First of all, is it true that a doctor is saying in twenty twenty six Epstein was strangled, not suicide.

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Chapter 6: What did Kristi Noem say about ensuring the right people vote?

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Yes, it is. It is true. Endless articles about this. It refers to forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. And the implication of the articles is that something new happened here, that we have new evidence, that we have new claims. We have a new explanation for why a forensic pathologist is saying Epstein was strangled. He didn't kill himself.

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142.878 - 172.885 David Pakman

I want to remind you, some of you might remember this. These claims were made by Dr. Michael Bodden back in 2019 for the first time. And in 2019, I did a video called Pathologist Jeffrey Epstein autopsy points to homicide, not suicide. It was based on the exact same doctor that's speaking today and the exact same info and justification that he is giving today. Nothing has changed.

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So this is another cycle of news for the same doctor based on the same claims from the same time, 2019. Now, regardless, our audience has multiplied many times since 2019. So I think it is worth exploring the claims. Let's listen. Here is Dr. Michael Bodden explaining why he believes Jeffrey Epstein was strangled, not that he took his own life.

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Well, I was asked by the brother, the next of kin, to be at the autopsy. And at the autopsy on day one, there were findings that were unusual for suicidal hanging and more consistent with ligature homicidal strangulation, which included... And it was suggested at the time that he committed suicide by doing what?

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But by hanging at the time he was found allegedly hanging by a homemade ligature of sheets.

229.56 - 231.508 Michael Baden

Are you saying you don't think it was suicide?

Chapter 7: What contradictions arise from Marjorie Taylor Greene's statements about Trump?

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I think that the evidence points toward homicide rather than suicide. Why? Because there are multiple three fractures in the hyoid bone, the thyroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide and more indicative of strangulation.

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OK, so the first important claim this is 2019, remember, is there were three fractures in the hyoid bone. You don't usually see that with suicide. That is more common in homicidal strangulation.

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Chapter 8: Why is Peter Navarro's understanding of the Dow Jones concerning?

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OK, so keep that in mind. That is claim number one. Let's now go back to the video to see what else Dr. Michael Bodden said are sure what happened. That's right.

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So what you know, this procedure, what happened in the interim to get this so so such a blunt conclusion. Well, a week later, it was changed to homicide. The brother wants to know what did they get new in that week?

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287.632 - 312.262 David Pakman

Speaker 1 Now, I already have to explain. They it went this is so this is why this is so difficult. What he means to say is it was changed to suicide. The findings went from inconclusive to suicide, which which some say is suspicious. They thought it was inconclusive, meaning it might have been homicide. And then suddenly it's suicide. He means suicide. He is saying homicide. And I apologize.

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It gets more muddled because of this.

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to make it a homicide. What's your answer to that? We don't know. We don't know. It's 80 days now. Right. And the brother feels he's getting a run around. And to add to it, there was a total breakdown in security. The video cameras didn't work. The guards went to sleep.

331.771 - 350.373 David Pakman

OK. OK. And then it goes back to me back in 2019. So the additional claims that are being made here are the finding was changed from inconclusive to suicide. And the security cameras and the guards went to sleep. Those are not medical findings. So remember that those are not medical findings.

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And finally, in prison, very easy. And but first, in this situation, who if he took the sheets and stripped and made it would have taken a good half hour or hour to make the ligature, then to go up there. Once you're hanging, it's about five minutes or so that you can have been near dead.

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Dr. Bodden, though, if the supposition is that it was a homicide, that would mean cops were in on it, who opened the door, who moved the cameras, all of that stuff. Was it someone on the outside or was it inside John? That's right. Well, terrible allegations.

386.597 - 410.428 David Pakman

Well, why were the two got two guards asleep in 50 years? OK, so I'm going to stop it here because nothing else that Michael Bodden says is medically relevant. It's just like anybody can kind of go, oh, it's weird that the guards were asleep. So The statements he makes are it's easy to commit suicide in prison. The guards fell asleep. There was a suspicious revision of it was inconclusive.

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