The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
UFO Roundtable: CIA Physicist Proves Aliens Exist
14 May 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: How has the US government covered up non-human intelligent life since the 1940s?
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Chapter 3: What evidence supports claims of recovered crashed UAP craft?
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There has been an 80-year cover-up of the existence of non-human intelligent life, covered up by elements of the U.S. government. But this past Friday, the first tranche of evidence was released to the public.
Chapter 4: What is the Legacy Program and how has it operated outside oversight?
The evidence is absolutely clear that there is some form of life with advanced technology.
They're all over the place. But the people involved in gatekeeping this information don't think the public can handle the truth.
Chapter 5: Why are UAPs frequently spotted over nuclear weapons sites?
People have had their lives threatened. A lot of them are afraid to come forward and tell the White House what they know. And this has been kept from even sitting president. And I've interviewed high-level intelligence officials and government officials, and there have been UAP crashes over the years. And in some cases, the crashed crafts had the bodies of non-humans in them.
Chapter 6: What does Trump's declassification directive reveal about UAPs?
And now we have people on ships seeing these things enter the water, but seeing enough times under enough different conditions that we just have to accept that it's real. So what exactly is inside this report?
Chapter 7: Why has clear UFO footage not emerged despite advancements in technology?
We have so many sightings, even access to materials.
And there's a number of files, reports, video, and still images that were declassified. And the most notable piece of evidence in there is this. So I have so many questions. You're probably familiar with this NASA report. They essentially say that they don't believe that these UAPs are aliens. Why would NASA be lying? Is there a reason why this stuff hasn't been captured on like an iPhone?
Are they currently living amongst us? And then do you trust the Trump administration to release all of the available information? I think eventually we'll get to that moment that we've all only seen in movies where a sitting president steps to a microphone and tells the world we're not alone in the universe. Guys, I've got a favour to ask before this episode begins.
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Dr. Harold, Dan, I wanted to have a conversation with both of you today because you are two of the most popular voices online on this subject of UAPs, which is Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. Right, exactly. It has been in all the news recently because Trump, a couple of days ago, released 400 classified files containing videos and photos and different reports on this subject of UAPs. Now, I...
don't have an opinion. I honestly haven't gone that far down the rabbit hole on this subject, but I wanted to have the conversation with both of you because you do have opinions. So starting with you, Dan, what is your background? And as it relates to the subject of UAPs, what is it that you believe that most people don't know or understand? My interest in this topic comes from my childhood.
And so over the years, I read every book on the topic, watched every doc. I always wished someone had made a super serious, credible, sober documentary that only interviews people who have direct knowledge of this topic as a result of working for the US government. And so got into producing.
As I was getting access to high-level intelligence officials and government officials, before I even filmed, I really quickly learned how serious and real the situation is and how serious it's treated behind the scenes. And, you know, I made this movie, The Age of Disclosure, in secrecy over three and a half years.
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Chapter 8: What is the Pentagon's secret remote viewing program and how does it relate to UAPs?
And the stakes couldn't be higher. Those are the two massive headlines. And I'm proud to say when the film came out, it created a national conversation at an unprecedented level.
And it led to President Trump issuing this directive in the middle of February, super unprecedented historic directive, instructing federal agencies to start declassifying evidence it has, they have, of non-human intelligent life and UAP. And then that process began this past Friday. The first tranche of evidence was released to the public.
And during the process of producing this documentary, who did you speak to? I got access to the highest levels of government, military, and intelligence community.
My interview subjects range from Secretary Rubio, who's also our National Security Advisor now, White House National Security Council members, Navy fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former Secretary of Defense, the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations. Every single person is extremely credible. Hal is one of my interview subjects.
Hal's one of the most senior scientists to work on this topic for the US government in classified projects. And him and all these other people interviewed, they had a lot of information they could legally share over the years, but they were always discouraged from doing so. And they never really had the opportunity to comfortably do it. No one wanted to be the one guy out on a limb
saying something extraordinary on CNN or Fox or 60 Minutes and then being subject to the pushback and the ridicule. And so when I realized that, I started socializing a plan for how to step out of the shadows arm in arm with safety in numbers. I'll pick up on that point there where you talked about safety in numbers. He mentioned you there. You were part of the documentary.
I saw you as well in the trailer of the documentary. What is your background and what reference points are you drawing on to speak on the subject of UAPs and UFOs, etc.?
I'm a quantum physicist. I work for the National Security Agency, for various organizations in the intelligence community like CIA and so on. And so as part of my technical work, I was also a consultant chief science advisor to Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace. He's really quite a titan. I mean, he has two space stations orbiting the Earth.
So anyway, those people who are in the space business and they're moving out into space, they just can't help but wondering, you know, what are we going to run into when we get out there? As a science advisor to him, it turned out that the Defense Intelligence Agency came forward and said, you know, we need to find out really what's going on in this so-called UAP area.
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