WW3 Threat Assessment: The War Has Quietly Started & No One’s Trying to Stop It!

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What does the opening discussion suggest about the early stages of World War III?

Andrew Bustamante 0:00
I believe that we are already at the early stages, if not in World War Three. It just doesn't look like the wars of the past.
Annie Jacobsen 0:06
And people should understand what is at stake, which is we are one misunderstanding. One miscalculation away. Or even one AI generated viral video from nuclear annihilation.
Steven Bartlett 0:18
Is there anything at all you're doing to prepare? I'm leaving the United States by twenty twenty six. But is there anywhere on this map that is safe in a war?
Andrew Bustamante 0:24
So my understanding is that there's actually three safe zones.
Annie Jacobsen 0:26
You are right. Okay
Andrew Bustamante 0:27
there's Hawaii.
Annie Jacobsen 0:28
No, because there's so many targets in Hawaii. And same with all of Europe. But there's one tiny little place right
Steven Bartlett 0:36
there. So where do we find ourselves in terms of conflict and morph and
Benjamin Radd 0:39
now it's getting worse? And in the past, it was whoever had the strongest military. Now you can destabilize a government or a society using a server farm and 20 people sitting in a room thousands of miles away.
Annie Jacobsen 0:50
And another real problem we have right now is that the different political parties inside the United States are so intent on taking down the other side. They do it at the national security parallel.
Benjamin Radd 1:01
So now Russia or China can play people off against one another and cause division. Andrew, what do you think happens next?
Andrew Bustamante 1:07
Well I think World War III is going to be shaped by what we call proxy war, where a wealthy nation state funds, trains, and arms conflict in a less wealthy state to decrease the capability of your
Steven Bartlett 1:18
primary target. So they're using that nation to do the work for them. Exactly
Andrew Bustamante 1:22
right. That's already happening.
Steven Bartlett 1:23
And what's the probability of nuclear war?
Annie Jacobsen 1:25
So here's a terrifying detail that the public does not know. So Wow.
Steven Bartlett 1:33
Quick one before we get back to this episode, just give me thirty seconds of your time. Two things I wanted to say. The first thing is a huge thank you for listening and tuning into the show week after week. It means the world to all of us. And this really is a dream that we absolutely never had and couldn't have imagined getting to this place. But secondly, it's a dream where we feel like we're only just getting started. And if you enjoy what we do here, please join the 24% of people that listen to this podcast regularly and follow us on this app. Here's a promise I'm gonna make to you. I'm gonna do everything in my power to make this show as good as I can now and into the future. We're gonna deliver the guests that you want me to speak to and we're gonna continue to keep doing all of the things you love about this show.
Steven Bartlett 2:14
Thank you. Thank you so much. Back to the episode.
Unknown 2:19
Mm.
Steven Bartlett 2:21
I invited you all here today because I intuitively feel like the world is changing before our eyes, and I think so many of us, if we're on social media or reading newspapers, can feel a sort of tension growing in society that is hard to understand if you're not an expert or you're not connected to these subjects in some way. I looked at some stats before this conversation that kind of support this feeling that I've intuitively had, and it shows that. Conflict zones across the world have increased by 66% in the last three years. In December 2024, the American think tank Atlantic Council asked about 400 global strategists about their thoughts about what's going on in the world. And 65% think that China will invade Taiwan by force within 10 years.
Steven Bartlett 3:05
About 40% think there'll be a world war in the next 10 years. About 50% think nuclear weapons will be used in the next 10 years. Years. About 45% think Russia and NATO will fight directly. When we look at sort of spending and what's happening there, there's been a huge jump in military spending. There's now 300,000 NATO troops around the world that are on 30-day high alert readiness. 59 states have erupted in war since 2023, which is the greatest number logged in any year since 1946. And world military spending is up by about ten percent year over year, which is the highest sum ever recorded by CIPAR, making it a full decade of uninterrupted growth in military spending. Things feel tense, and every time I turn on the news I have a mild sense of anxiety.

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