Moody Abdul: The Admin Is Killing Therapy. AI Is the Fix. | Ep 1288
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Welcome to Corozant Technologies, home of the Digital Executive Podcast. Do you work in emerging tech, working on something innovative, maybe an entrepreneur? Apply to be a guest at www.corozant.com forward slash brand. Welcome to the Digital Executive. Today's guest is Moody Abdul. Moody Abdul is the co-founder and CEO of Clarify, an AI-powered platform helping therapists reduce administrative burdens and spend more time focused on client care. Inspired by his own experience with therapy and the impact it had on his life, Moody co-founded Clarify to address one of the biggest challenges facing mental health professionals today. the growing amount of time spent on documentation, insurance claims, compliance, and other administrative work that takes clinicians away from their patients.
Clarify is backed by Y Combinator, one of the world's leading startup accelerators. Well, good afternoon, Moody. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Great to be here. Absolutely, my friend. I appreciate it. You're hailing out of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I'm in Kansas City, so I appreciate you kind of traversing one time zone and probably about 900 miles away. So I appreciate that. So let's just jump right into your first question, Moody. You've had a real founder's arc. enterprise sales at LinkedIn, then co-founding Circleback.ai as an AI meeting assistant, and now Clarify. But you've said the real spark came from your own experience with therapy and a personal breakthrough combining therapy and AI tools. Can you take us back to that moment and how it turned into a company you built for the therapists who changed your life?
Yeah, I grew up in a family that is well-versed with mental health issues. I was born in Canada, but my parents and all my uncles and aunts were refugees from Lebanon during the civil war. So any sort of diagnosis you can think of, we have it in my family. Schizophrenia, bipolar, we have autism. And I grew up around this culture of mental health is not really something that you work on. But growing up in Canada, I had a different view on that. And so when I was in my 20s, I went to therapy for the first time and it completely changed my relationship with my father, who I had maybe a 15 year broken relationship at that point. And with my partner at the time, which has helped me become a better now husband.
I just got married last week. So that was a huge milestone for me. And I really credit the therapist, the different therapists in my life for helping me be a better person and heal the relationships in my life. While I was building Circleback, my own therapist said she wished she could use it. And Circleback was a meeting note taker that, you know, would listen to your calls and write you a summary. But she highlighted how that wouldn't work for her in terms of regulations and just the different workflows she had. And I knew that I had to give back to the people that have given so much to me. So I left Circleback, started Clarify, and now we've helped thousands of therapists with hundreds of thousands of therapy sessions, automate all the drudgery and the work that takes away time and energy from them helping people.
That's awesome. I love this story. Your backstory is just amazing. I think moving out of that chaotic environment, you talked about the Lebanon civil war, and that's got to be traumatic for anybody that was in, in that, of course, but you, you moved to Canada and you did have some history there in the family and some mental health issues. And you worked through that with, with therapists. And of course, along the way, you built some company. Well, circle back as, as one, obviously, and, and Your therapist particularly wanted to utilize something like that. And that's kind of the genesis for everything that you've done. And you're really giving back. You learned a lot. You came through a lot, a lot of challenges.
And now you've actually giving back to the world to make the world a better place. So I love the backstory. Moody, you've drawn a sharp line between software that stores what therapists do and software that can actually do it.
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0:08–8:33
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How did Moody Abdul’s personal therapy journey inspire the founding of Klarify?
8:33–8:56
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What childhood and family influences shaped Moody’s view on mental health?
8:56–14:36
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Why did Moody leave Circleback to build a therapy-focused AI company?
14:36–17:45
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