HOT TOPICS | Signalgate Scandal... What Scandal? - March 27th, 2025
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What personal scheduling mix-up with Kara Swisher kicks off the episode?
You're not going to even believe this if I told you. You're not going to believe this if I even told you. You know, guys, how I like to joke when we had Joy Reid and I said, all of a sudden, Joy Reid, I am going to, by the way, good morning, everybody. How are you guys doing? Where are you streaming from? Good to see you this morning. Wow, look at all the people who are here. Holy smokes, smokes, smokes, smokes, smokes. Okay, here is the thing I want to tell you. Remember I joked when I said, Joy Reid, All of a sudden, okay, let me just say, so Kara Swisher, I'm going to read our text messages. I'm going to read our text messages. Hi, Kara. My producer sent this to you, just sending again in case you didn't see at 10 o'clock, see you in a few minutes.
Sorry, I can't talk right now. You're supposed to be on. We're live. Yikes. Kara, we're not on for a bit. No. I said 10 a.m. Eastern. She goes, no, 1 p.m. Eastern, 10 a.m. Pacific time. I said Eastern. She said, oh, my God, I think we had a mismatch of time. I'm taping a pivot right now at 10 a.m. every Thursday. And then she sends me a shot of her calendar. And then she goes and then I tape another thing and I say, arg, I'll have to dance for an hour. Let's reconnect. I'm flying out at noon. And then just for proof, she contacted me. I said, hey, I wanted to come on for the one year anniversary. Last week, she said, I'm in Puerto Rico with my family. Can we do 9 or 10 a.m. on 327 if you want? I said, yes. She sent me pictures of family.
I said, gorgeous family. You're so fortunate. Yes, let's do 10 a.m. 327. Thank you. Except she thought that I was talking about 10 a.m. Pacific time. Who's on Pacific time? Now, correct me if I am wrong. Isn't like, you know, like English is the default language in most places. Isn't 10 a.m. ? The default for time. Am I wrong? Can we get, like, can we tell Kara, Kara, what are you doing? Kara's my friend. So, look, I think it was an honest, honest, honest mistake because we are friends. I'm looking for my pen. We are friends, and she would never do that to me. She would never not just show up. So, an honest mistake. Don leaking text. I'm not leaking text messages. And this was not over Signal. We have nothing to hide, Kara Swisher and I. We are friends and we do it just over regular text messages.
So she's taping Pivot right now. And so we're going to figure out a time to reconnect. So I just have to be upfront and honest with you. We're supposed to have Kara. It is a huge disappointment because I love her. I love Scott. I love Pivot. And I love her other podcast. I forget the name of it. Was it Own or One or... On with Kara Swisher. On with Kara Swisher. So yeah, there we go. So maybe if she finishes, she'll dial in, but otherwise we will reconnect. Eastern time is right. Eastern standard time. That is the default. What should I do with Kara Swisher? Should I sack her out? Should I hug her when I see her? Should I be mad? Should I not speak to her? Should I pretend that I'm really ticked off at her? Because I can't get really mad at Kara Swisher.
Should I really be mad at her? By the way, so if you guys are in, let's just say you're in Central, Mountain, Western, Pacific or whatever, don't you know like when people, usually people say, you know, 7 a.m., 9 a.m., 10 a.m., like you kind of know, right? Even if you're on the TikTok, let me know. Am I wrong? It's 109 a.m. in Sydney, Australia, someone said on the TikTok. So I always ask. I just assume because Kara is usually in Washington, D.C. when we communicate, but apparently she is in California now. So anyway, I won't harp on that, but I wanted to talk to Kara about a lot of things. You know, she has been very, very, very transparent about how she feels about what's happening with Doge. You know that she has been in the tech industry forever.
She knows everything. And she has been discussing what is happening with Elon Musk, et cetera. And she has been discussing what's happening with Doge and also very vocal about this scandal. And I wanted to get her perspective. And we will. OK, no, she didn't say no.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What personal scheduling mix-up with Kara Swisher kicks off the episode?
0:16–4:56
2
How does Don explain why time zones caused the Kara Swisher no-show?
4:56–16:11
3
What is 'Signalgate' and why is public interest in the Atlantic story surging?
16:11–35:02
4
How do polls show public dissatisfaction with Trump's cabinet ahead of Signalgate?
35:02–41:33