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Chapter 1: What happened during Pam Bondi's testimony before Congress?
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We were here at a YouTube conference, which is kind of amazing.
Chapter 2: How did Pam Bondi respond to questions about the Epstein files?
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remember i used to live there toledo and uh greensboro and atlanta torrance all those um the reason that because they're like they are enamored by the success of our show and so we got to spend some time with folks and we got to today as well be a party to these hearings that were happening on capitol hill uh with pam bondy who is attorney general of the united states and boy there were fireworks today
And if you didn't see it, maybe it's good that you didn't see it because we watched it so that you would not have to. And so before we get to all of the mishigas and the madness of it, her not answering questions, going in with a script that basically said Donald Trump is the best president ever and we should be talking about the booming stock market.
I want to bring in someone who was at that committee, at that hearing, got to ask questions. I don't know if he got any answers. And that is Representative Jamie Raskin. He has served Maryland's eighth congressional district since 2017. He's also the ranking member on the House Judiciary Committee. And we are grateful to have him. Thank you for joining us, Representative Raskin. Man, what a day.
Pam Bondi, what was the point? She didn't answer any questions.
It was surreal.
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Chapter 3: What were the committee members' reactions to Bondi's performance?
She was spectacularly disrespectful to the members of the committee, to the victim survivors of the Epstein human trafficking conspiracy who were in the room. She wouldn't apologize to them. She would not commit to meet with them. She would not commit to create a joint federal state local task force to actually investigate the crimes. And while she was extremely passionate and animated
In detailed and specific, in talking about certain cases, like the Don Lemon case, for example, she had very little to say about the Epstein files and wanted to change the subject immediately. And she did that repeatedly as members tried to pin her down. She would evade. She would dodge. She would change the subject. She would filibuster.
And then she began to resort to ad hominem vilification, demonization, and insults of the members of the committee.
You know, I was just going about my business today and actually was doing some work. I'm here on Capitol Hill doing some work. I got to speak to some members of the media and new media at the Capitol today.
Chapter 4: How did Pam Bondi's statements reflect her political alignment?
John Ossoff was before me. I was the next speaker. And then Cory Booker. And so I got to talk to some folks. But they were telling me, hey, you know, Pam Bondi is just name checking you on Capitol Hill for no reason because she's trying to avoid questions. Was it that obvious?
Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, it would be a great class for seventh graders in logical and rhetorical fallacies because she'd be asked a question about the Epstein survivors. For example, I said to her, well, Donald Trump wants $10 billion. because his tax returns were released by a private contractor, and he's suing the IRS for $10 billion.
How much do the Epstein survivors get for your putting their names, their addresses, their phone numbers, in some cases, nude images of them online? And then she would just radically change the subject. People would ask her a substantive question, and then she would start saying, well, the Dow is over... You know, whatever now. And what about what's happening in your district?
Chapter 5: What specific accusations were made against Pam Bondi during the hearing?
And I don't like what you did about this or that. I mean, it was just deranged.
Here's the thing. I wonder how this plays, and it doesn't matter, because we know how it's going to play with some of them. But what I liked about what you did- Well, her audience had won.
I mean, she was clearly playing for Donald Trump, as a lot of my colleagues were, but it's playing terribly around the world and around the country. And so I guess that's the question. I mean, this is always the question for people who have an authoritarian mindset, which is, is it enough just to keep your loyalists with you? And then when it comes to things like
the truth and justice and elections, you'll corrupt them, you'll steal them, you'll lie and so on. I mean, we're getting to the end of the road with these people.
What I liked about what you did was because you immediately stepped in when Jerry Nadler was speaking and she tried to insult him right off the bat. And I love the way that you played referee and saying, you know, reclaim your time. You know, Mr. Chair, she's not answering the question. It is the gentle lady or the gentleman's time.
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Chapter 6: How did the panelists analyze Bondi's evasive tactics?
And you had to jump in repeatedly. Explain to the viewers why that was.
That would be the role of the chair. But of course, the Republicans are just going to cave in and capitulate to a witness like this and let them run amok. So I decided, yes, maybe I will have the gavel in 10 months and I'm going to start practicing by acting like a real chair. and saying, stop the clock. The witness is filibustering. That should not come off of our time.
She can filibuster all day, but don't deduct that from our time. We only get five minutes. I had asked Chairman Jordan whether we could have a second round. So we'd have 10 minutes or a third round, 15 minutes. I mean, that would barely scratch the surface of the corruption and the lawlessness that pervade the Trump administration and the Department of Justice now. But
With only five minutes, we couldn't afford to have her devour our time.
Chapter 7: What insights did Representative Jamie Raskin share about the hearing?
That was a deliberate strategy, of course. And then when we started calling her on it and stopping the clock whenever she did it, then her new strategy was she would remain silent for as long as possible before answering. So I mean, it was just like a cat and mouse game. It was ludicrous.
So listen, I hate to have you relive this again, but I just want to play. This is Pam Bondi screaming about the stock market for some reason, which wasn't the answer to any of the questions. Here it is.
The Dow, the Dow right now is over. The Dow is over $50,000.
I don't know why you're laughing. You're a great stock trader, as I hear, Raskin. The Dow is over $50,000 right now. The S&P at almost $7,000. And the NASDAQ smashing records. Americans' 401ks and retirement savings are booming.
Chapter 8: What are the implications of Bondi's testimony for future political accountability?
That's what we should be talking about. We should be talking about making Americans safe. We should be talking about what does a Dow have to do with anything? That's what they just asked. Are you kidding?
Mr. Jordan, Mr. Jordan. So making America safe. I mean, look, we should make America safe from pedophiles. And it doesn't seem that we're trying to do that. And the other thing where she's talking about, you know, the Dow and you're this great trader and all that stuff, a personal insult at homonym attack.
Totally misplaced, by the way. I mean, I don't own. I don't trade individual stocks. The money that I've been able to save is in mutual funds. And I am not a day trader. And I've always been for members of Congress not being able to do that and not being able to engage in individual trades, which of course they say nothing about because they're all doing it, but they like to use an insult.
Another insult she got wrong. At one point she said, you're not even a lawyer. I am a lawyer. I pay my bar dues every year. I'm a real lawyer. I think that she meant that for Chairman Jordan because he's not a lawyer. I think she got her insults mixed up. Well, here's the thing. Do you remember what your question was at that point when she responded that way?
I think she was maybe responding to Republican at that point. But what was happening was she wasn't responding to us. And so members were saying, well, I'm going to get as much truth out as possible. So then when the Republicans went, she'd said, well, can I have 30 seconds or a minute just to respond to someone? And I think she was either respond.
I can't remember who she was responding to at that point. It may have been to Correa. I can't remember.
Okay, so here's the thing. The tell, the reason I ask you that is because the tell is whatever the answer was, it appeared to be in her hand. So she came there ready with a script for no matter what question you're going to ask her, she was reading the stock market thing and all of the things that she wanted. She said, we should be discussing here. She was reading that right off of a script.
Yes. And she had what they were calling over in the sense I had a burn book, which is a series of insults for each of us based on our districts or based on our careers. And a lot of the information was erroneous, as we're saying. But of course, all of it is a logical and rhetorical fallacy. In other words, it's a distraction from just answering the question.
We're trying to conduct congressional oversight on serious stuff like a massive global child sex trafficking ring, like American citizens getting shot in the face in Minneapolis, the lawlessness of ICE and the administration. And we're trying to ask those questions. And she immediately changes the subject to something else.
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