Chapter 1: What happened when the wife discovered her husband's affair?
I caught him having an affair with one of our employees. He would wait till I would go to bed and he would sneak over there. Oh man, I'm sorry. And we bought the house next door to us and we rented it out to her. And that's when things changed.
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Hi. How's it going? Well, I've had a rough couple years.
Yeah. What's going on?
So my husband and I, we've been married for 33 years. He's retired military. We have five kids together. They're all adults. Three, just a little over three years ago, I caught him having an affair with one of our employees. At the time, she was 20 and he was 55. Whoa. And yeah, well, she'd been working for us since she was 15. Oh. And there was nothing going on when she was young.
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Chapter 2: How did the wife cope with her husband's infidelity?
I know that for a fact.
Okay.
But can I say this?
That is, if you've known somebody since you're 15, and that would have put you guys in your early to mid-40s, there is very much a mentor-mentee, and not to be gross about it, but there is very much a son or daughter, niece or nephew relationship that forms, right?
A hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yes. So we, we kind of treated her like a daughter.
Yeah.
Cause I mean, she, she was the same age as, as you know, our kids basically. Yeah. Yeah.
What's the nature of your business?
Uh, it's a bakery.
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Chapter 3: What role does therapy play in healing after betrayal?
And I, I found, I found text messages. Yeah. He would, he would go over there and cook her dinner. And, When I found out, I took a week to kind of gather information just to kind of see if what I really was seeing was true. And, of course, when I confronted him about it, I swear nothing happened. I was just going over there. We were watching movies and this and that. And, you know, I mean, I...
the text message messages that I found that were deleted, but not, they were in his deleted folder. They weren't deleted, deleted. I, I, I have all of them. I mean, you can't read these text messages and think that they were just watching movies. Sure. So after a couple of weeks of, you know, the initial impact and the anger and the, and the yelling and the fighting, um,
I told him, I said, if you want to fix this, you have to find a therapist. And he said he would. And so probably six weeks go by and he hadn't found one yet. So I found the therapist. And in therapy, we came up with a plan to get rid of her. And he was on board with that.
To fire her, right?
Yes.
Well, we had to be really careful about how we did it because of the stupid thing that he did while she was a tenant. So we had to be really careful.
Well, I'm just saying Kelly listens to a lot of murder podcasts. So when you say we had to get rid of her, I'm just saying like, okay, we had to get her out of our life, right? Not bury her in the yard. Okay. Good, good, good.
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Chapter 4: How can boundaries be established after an affair?
Okay. In therapy, I told him, This is as far as our relationship will go. This was my boundary. This is as far as our relationship will go until she's out of her life. And that's perfectly reasonable. So here we are almost three and a half years later, and the words he uses, she still works for us. The words he uses is she's integral to running the business.
Okay. Let me hop in here, okay?
Yep.
Okay.
I don't care about what he's doing right now. I don't care about what this now 23-year-old, 24-year-old woman is doing. Why are you still here?
Because I guess I keep holding on to something that probably isn't going to happen.
It's not going to. Because you laid down your boundary and he stepped over it, brought her with him. And nothing for 36 or 40 months has changed.
Right. I know. I see that. I know. It's 33 years.
I know. No, I'm not taking this lightly. Okay. I understand. The way I would say it is like this. A hurricane blew your house down and you're still sleeping in the shell that was once your bedroom.
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Chapter 5: What advice is given for addressing feelings of anger in children?
trying to pretend this thing still has a roof on it. And now you're getting mad every time you get wet when it rains.
Yeah.
None of this other action is going to happen. He's looked you in the eye and said, I care more about having her around. I care more about this bakery than I care about you.
That's exactly... He justifies it by saying... we need employees and she's the best employee that we have and I can't get rid of her.
Okay. Then he's, then he's, then he is saying with like impressive clarity.
Yeah.
I care more about this than you.
Yeah.
I care more about this than our marriage. Period. End of story.
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Chapter 6: How to support children dealing with parental infidelity?
Yeah.
Because your husband's made his decision.
Yeah.
If you choose, I'm worth more than this. Never in a million, billion years did I see this going to be the back half of my life. And the wild thing for me in these kind of situations is always this. The thing he thinks he's protecting, his quote unquote business, y'all's business, is about to get sold and divided in half.
Or he's about to have to write a huge check, including net present value, into the future to you. Yeah. Right? So his precious business is about to get blown up anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the fact that he won't maneuver, like do the right thing around. Anyway, long story short, here we are.
Right.
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Chapter 7: What are effective communication strategies in troubled marriages?
He told me that... No, no, beneath his words. He's out for himself and nobody else.
Game on. So I like to say when somebody initiates divorce... whether they put the paper down, they say, I'm going to file. They say, this is over. They say, I'm out for, I've got to protect myself now. Then everything that happens afterwards is a business transaction. Dividing the house, selling the cars, pulling out a 401ks, all of that stuff, dividing business assets.
It's a business transaction. And what I am afraid is happening to you is he is amassing money He is amassing troops at the border and you're still trying to hang on to the relationship. Okay. The fact that he thinks he's protecting himself by doing something in violation of your business agreement. He can't sell that business without you. You're a 50% owner.
I know.
The fact that he would have meetings and try to figure out what's the value of this thing without you present.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, I can't tell you what to do. I'm telling you if I was in your exact shoes, I would get off this call and call an attorney.
I called an attorney yesterday.
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Chapter 8: How can couples reignite intimacy in their relationship?
You're going to go through a deep season of grief.
Yeah.
And you've been grieving for a long time. Just telling the story from three and a half years ago, it's like it happened yesterday. I could hear it on you, right?
Well, cause she's, she's, she's a constant reminder. She's there all the time. And every, every time I see her or something happens and it'll be a trigger and it'll bring me right back to that. And I can't, he doesn't understand that with her there.
Let me change it. He doesn't care.
Yeah. He doesn't care.
He doesn't care. He made his choice.
Yeah.
And that should break your heart. It breaks mine.
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