Ultra-processed foods (UPFs) get a lot of negative press, but are they always as bad as people think? In this episode, I sit down with researcher Samuel Dicken, who recently led a high-profile randomized controlled trial on UPFs that challenged some long-held assumptions.We dig into what his study found, why not all UPFs are created equal, and how the way we consume them might matter more than the processing label itself. At the same time, we explore why sticking with mostly minimally processed foods is still a sound piece of nutrition advice.If you’ve ever wondered whether “ultra-processed” automatically means “unhealthy,” or how to make sense of the latest UPF research, you won’t want to miss this conversation.SPONSORS• David Protein - Buy 4 cartons, get 1 FREE at: https://davidprotein.com/pages/layne• Carbon Diet Coach – 14 day free trial: https://joincarbon.com/podcastLAYNE'S COMPANIESCarbon Diet Coach: https://joincarbon.com/podcastOutwork Nutrition: https://outworknutrition.comREPS Research Review: https://biolayne.com/repsWorkout Builder: https://biolayne.com/workout-builderTeam Biolayne: https://biolayne.com/online-coachingPhysique Coaching Academy: https://physiquecoachingacademy.comFOLLOW LAYNEhttp://www.facebook.com/laynenortonhttp://www.twitter.com/biolaynehttp://www.instagram.com/biolayneFOLLOW SAMhttps://www.instagram.com/drsamueldickenhttp://www.twitter.com/SamuelDickenUKTIMESTAMPS0:00:00 - Intro0:02:16 - Study Design0:12:07 - Study Results0:14:03 - NOVA Food Classification0:18:53 - Research Misinterpretations0:21:04 - Food Choices0:24:34 - Zero Calorie Beverages0:31:40 - Coke HFCS vs Cane Sugar0:34:07 - David Protein0:35:42 - Unintended Consequences0:43:55 - LDL Cholesterol0:47:50 - Ultra-Processed Foods Good or Bad?0:53:11 - Are Ultra-Processed Foods Addictive?1:02:10 - Carbon Diet Coach1:03:10 - Nuance of Ultra-Processed Foods1:07:35 - Negative Effects of UPFs Independent of Calories1:13:09 - Criticism of Study Design1:16:48 - Government Regulation1:23:58 - Behavior Changes1:29:37 - Animal vs Plant Based1:33:08 - Personal Diet Habits1:35:16 - Use Cases For UPFs1:38:33 - The Practical Realities of Research1:45:24 - What Have You Changed Your Mind On1:49:14 - PhD Discussion1:52:42 - OutroSHOW NOTES

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