The Outrage Over ICE's Actions
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What incident involving ICE sparked public outrage?
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Find Out podcast. Quick apology for not having a show last week on Thursday, but we were all together, and we don't actually know how to do a show together without professionals with us, so we did not do it. We're a bunch of idiots. Ticked on live or something, like just put it on our phone. Yeah, we should have done that. But anyways, we were doing a lot of planning and stuff we could share with you soon, but obviously, unfortunately, the main topic of today is the thing that everybody's talking about, which is that ICE has... murdered a second American citizen, a nurse, an ICU nurse by the name of Alex Preti. I think we've all seen about 17 different angles of this horrific, horrific moment in which ICE goes up, instigates, tackles him to the ground, takes the gun that he had in his waist away from him, of which he never touched.
And then they fired about 10, because they were counting in some of these videos, Ten shots into this man who is now obviously no longer with us, which has set off a firestorm again as ICE has done what they did two weeks ago to Rene Good. But in this particular case, it is even clearer that it was a execution. I think we can say execution at this point. And the country is at a boiling point and something's going to have to give here soon. And that's what we're going to talk about here today is. how we're feeling about this, what Democrats could do to stop this.
How do political figures respond to the actions of ICE?
We have some ideas. And also just talk about this general awfulness. So who wants to kick off their feelings about how shitty this is?
My first reaction, and I'm pleased that it didn't go this way, was when I saw this happen and then when I saw the video, I was like, there's going to be fucking riots. Yep, that's what I thought too. And it's going to be really bad. And Trump immediately was calling Jacob Fry and Tim Walz insurrectionists on true social and was like, I hear that word. And I know that you've threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act a thousand times. So I thought. We might be 12 hours away from like depending on how people respond in the streets, which I'm glad they didn't, you know, from from him invoking the Insurrection Act. And then that would be doom spiraling for everybody. And we'd have to start to, like, work back from that.
It would just get worse. So the fact that Minneapolis responded well, you know, as well as you can, that Tim Walz, you know, he activated the National Guard immediately. I think they took the right steps to keep Trump from.
What role does apathy play in societal accountability?
having permission to do the things that he might have wanted to do. And that certainly Stephen Miller and people like that were telling him to do. Um, and you know, and since then I feel like the state's leadership and state's investigators, the national guard I saw is handing out hot chocolate and pizza to the protesters, uh, wearing, wearing bright yellow vests so that nobody can see fucking ice, uh, ice agents. Everyone who's trying to be the better version of America is, is stepping up. And, uh, And it's painted them, the Trump people, in a really, really difficult corner to get themselves out of. And I think that's why it's showing up. Like, don't worry, guys, Tom Homan's showing up now. So he'll take care of it all.
The fucking guy who accepted $50,000 on a bribe.
I was going to say, is he paying for his flight with the bag of cash that he's never said where it went?
We should get him some of that Somali fraud money and then, you know, boom. Oh, yeah. He's closed.
He could, like, triple his money in no time.
What strategies are proposed for legislative change?
Yeah. So for those who don't know, Trump has I don't know if I'd say walking it back today, but he is he has said that he had a very I don't know. He always describes the phone calls so stupidly, but tremendous. I had a tremendous phone call with Tim Walls or pleasant or I don't know, beautiful. He said beautiful, perfect phone calls. Yeah. He's also talked to the mayor, Jacob Frye. And his solution to this problem is to send Tom Homan, who runs ICE, which is not really a great solution.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What incident involving ICE sparked public outrage?
0:16–1:43
2
How do political figures respond to the actions of ICE?
1:43–2:44
3
What role does apathy play in societal accountability?
2:44–3:39
4
What strategies are proposed for legislative change?
3:39–4:36
5
How do celebrities influence public discourse on political issues?
4:36–5:51
6
What are the implications of qualified immunity for ICE agents?
5:51–6:37
7
How does misinformation on social media impact political narratives?
6:37–7:19
8
What reflections are made on the responsibilities of elected officials?
7:19–52:01