Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everyone. I'm Jillian Turner, along with Kaylee McEnany, Kennedy, Jess Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It is five o'clock here in New York City. This is the five. It's a race against the clock now. The search for Nancy Guthrie entering day six with another major ransom deadline reportedly coming up Monday. This allegedly a deadline that comes with some more serious consequences.
Jonathan Hunts in Tucson with new details this hour. Jonathan, what can you tell us?
Gillian, almost complete silence from the sheriff's office, which we're standing in front of right now today, and very little investigative activity that we have seen on the ground anywhere at Nancy Guthrie's house or at any other location today. And I think that speaks to the idea that the focus now is really on trying to figure out what is happening today. with these ransom notes?
Are they 100% real? And if so, how do the Guthrie family and investigators reach out to those kidnappers? That's what they're trying to do, is establish some form of contact beyond the notes they've already received. As for those notes, we know that TMZ and Harvey Levin received one of them. Harvey was going through what he said was a time frame in which the kidnapper or kidnapper's
promised to return Nancy Guthrie if the ransom was paid. And TMZ put together a kind of radius that that might be given that timeframe. Listen here to Harvey Levin of TMZ.
In the letter it says they would return her back to Tucson. So they also give a timeframe of how long it would take after they received the money to return her to Tucson. Based on this timeframe in the letter and the fact that she would be returned back to Tucson, here's the way it looks. If you look, this is Tucson right here.
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Chapter 2: What is the situation surrounding Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping?
If you look at this red circle, That is the radius of the maximum amount of time it would take to get her back to Tucson, all around this circle.
That radius, by the way, includes literally millions of square miles. Also mentioned, according to the FBI in the ransom notes, were floodlights at Nancy Guthrie's home. Our drone team were able to zoom in today on one particular floodlight next to a back door of Nancy Guthrie's property, a white floodlight. You can see there that it appears to to be badly damaged.
Another thing that we wanted to point out to you guys is some door knocking that was being done by investigators in Annie Guthrie's neighborhood just yesterday. Now, that may or may not be significant, but it struck us because the sheriff is still not willing to tell us whether it was Annie Guthrie or her husband Tommaso who dropped Nancy Guthrie off at her home
on Saturday night, therefore the last person to see Nancy Guthrie. So we're waiting to find out what those investigators may have gleaned from that door knocking. So that is possibly another significant investigative thread that they're trying to unpick here, guys.
All right, Jonathan Hunt in Tucson for us this evening. Thank you. We're also tracking this. Anti-ice protests broke out today right here in New York City. Arrests outside Columbia University after protesters blocked traffic for about an hour, demanding the Ivy League school declare itself a, quote, sanctuary campus against ice.
Meanwhile, in Minneapolis, protesters there have been setting up roadblocks, checkpoints, barricading off streets, all in an attempt to keep ice agents at bay.
We are literally creating a place that we know who's coming and going in and out of our neighborhoods.
In the middle of the road at 32nd and Cedar Avenue, a makeshift roadblock turned this intersection into a roundabout. Cars slowed as drivers noticed, some honked, others asked questions, and one man brought food for the people standing watch. But Minneapolis police stepped in, clearing the roadblock. Residents say the roadblock was necessary.
We need to keep our neighbors safe, so we will be doing this again.
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Chapter 3: What are the details of the ransom notes received?
And the program was geared towards that. That's what non-trads are. Things have changed.
Yeah, I mean, sometimes I wish we had mandatory military service. Greg would have served. He would have understood what it would have been like to hold a weapon and do push-ups, maybe had his head shaved. Why is everybody picking on me? Because you're an idiot, Greg, and you look like you belong in a catalog for sheep.
I was going to say, I'm picking on you because you're wearing mohair. Mohair, more problems. on television right now?
I don't know, man. You guys are taking the show down. Yeah, I mean, it can't get any lower than it's been in a long time. The Columbia situation, I feel sad because it used to be a great school and you used to want to send your students there. But now there's this hardcore, radical, hostile faction that has destroyed the reputation of the university.
And that's why a lot of parents are now sending their kids to the SEC, because even if it's in Ivy, you don't want to go anywhere near this place. Because some of these women are actually dangerous. Yes, there are some great professors. Yes, there's some bright kids there. But there is a hardcore group of women there that are making everyone's lives miserable. And I wish I could help them.
I wish I had the time to help them. It's a big time commitment to sit them down and explain things. The definition of patriotism, what it's like to love another person. They don't love men. They don't love America. And these are lost souls. And sometimes I wish they could find Jesus. Sometimes I wish they had a boyfriend. Other times I'd maybe suggest exercise or having a drink.
But these are things that I can't concern myself with. Everybody has their own struggle. The other thing that's going on in Minneapolis is that it's now like arts and crafts. We've now moved from an actual... almost teetering into sending in the National Guard to hangers-on. Now these are women that are playing dress-up. This is a fantasy.
They are now pretending to be Border Patrol agents, because if you have a sanctuary city or neighborhood, they're now enforcing a border and have checkpoints about who they can let in and who they can't let in. I don't think they understand the irony of what's going on, but it's become now a little pathetic.
And I feel sorry for these people, which is why we're going to be taking our show on the road, Jesse Waters Prom Time.
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Chapter 4: How are investigators responding to the kidnapping case?
It's around 7 percent, 7, 8 percent at both schools. And absenteeism at the Chicago school is around 70 percent. So they really need to invert some of those scores if they want to see some academic progress. That's me as a layperson giving them a little bit of education advice.
What they really don't need to be doing necessarily is letting kids out of school and encouraging them to protest when they already have such rampant absenteeism. What they could do is have students talk about this in a civics class or an AP history class, and they can have discussions about this.
They could also be forced to take the opposite side of what they believe and try and argue it from the government's perspective. Sometimes when you do that, it actually bolsters your arguments. Unfortunately, these educators and administrators, they are so hung up. on being liked like these mayors are in places like Seattle and Minneapolis and Portland, that they are being led by the mob.
It's no different in these high schools. And in the process, instead of educating them, they're doing them a massive disservice. Greg, now you can finally talk about Kyle Wagner. I don't know who you're talking about, to be honest. The guy who was arrested in Minneapolis. I want to touch on what Kennedy's saying, because I think that this is the scariest part of this whole phenomenon.
We just caught on and we knew, but America kind of caught on that the college campuses were the ground zero for anti-Western, anti-American activism. So what happened? They moved it up to high schools. You start having these walkouts and there's this indoctrination going on where they're teaching kids at an early age to become long term organizers. So they get swallowed up by the chance.
They fall in love with the attention. They get to do speeches. They are no longer. It's not just about classroom stuff. They're no longer curious about life. Like to them, this is so much more interesting than any hobby or any musical instrument or any language that they could learn. So it actually ā it's funny. We've talked about the trance thing. Those were the body snatchers.
Now it's the brain snatchers. They're going after these kids, and they're intercepting them before they ever get to ā Make a decision about their lives. And it used to be when your kids went to college, you would go, OK, this is a phase. But what happens if it's in high school?
The Columbia Sanctuary thing is interesting because, you know, they still get one point one billion from the government. So for projects, education, infrastructure, just take it away. If you want it, if you don't want to act like a normal person, we're not going to treat you like a normal person. Pull all that money. I think I could get from Jesse that he's bored by this topic.
How did you know?
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Chapter 5: What protests occurred in New York City related to immigration?
All we know at this point, Jillian, is the confirmation from the sheriff's office here, Pima County Sheriff's, which we're at right now, is that they are, quote, aware of this message and they are actively looking into it. They're trying to establish. It's authenticity. A lot of questions, obviously.
One, and a very important question will be, is this message from the same person or persons as the previous messages, the three ransom notes that were sent to TMZ and two local TV stations? Is it from the same person? And they'll be able to look at the content of this message and look at things like the writing style, etc. See if there are similarities.
They'll obviously be looking at the email address, although that may have been changed if this person or persons are trying to cover their tracks, obviously. So there's a lot they'll want to look at. Now, what we and the Guthrie family certainly would hope is that this new message
if it is authentic is a response to those video please we've seen from the guthrie siblings savannah annie and cameron for the kidnapper or kidnappers to get in touch directly with them and to send proof of life to show them the family that nancy guthrie is alive that this these people or this person
has Nancy Guthrie, and that they are genuinely those who have her right now and can, therefore, return her. So they'll be looking at this very closely now. Given that the sheriff's office has put out this announcement, that they are aware of this message, we would expect more detail from them soon.
But this is clearly potentially, and I have to emphasize potentially there, a very significant development. It is a response to those pleas to show proof of life, Jillian.
Jonathan, it's Kennedy. I have a quick question. What form are these messages taking? Are they handwritten? Are they electronic? What do we know about them?
All the messages received so far, and remember, they have not been completely 100% authenticated up until now, but the three ransom notes were all sent via email, and it was an untraceable email address, or at least untraceable in the early going. The FBI obviously has a lot they can bring to bear here.
They may be able to track down the source, but on the initial look at that, it was an untraceable email address. We assume that this new message is also sent by email. We don't have that confirmed by the sheriff yet. But the very fact, I think, that they are putting out an announcement saying we are aware of a message.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis?
There's other ways you can show proof of life, I assume, that can indicate that you're willing to wheel and deal and and make the. Guthrie family send the money because really this is all just about money and life. And this is high stakes. And Harvey made a great point. It, it doesn't necessarily seem like the kidnappers targeted the
Savannah Guthrie in particular, you look at her, she's in New York. Let's find where her mom is. Oh, she's in Tucson. No, by the way, things are, and the timing of we're going to get this woman back within a certain time period. And the fact that they sent these letters to local Tucson stations and TMZ in LA shows you that this might have a, a Tucson, Arizona, um, kind of location.
And so that's kind of where everything's focused on right now. And I don't know. I think the sheriff really needed this break.
So that point... You got something, Greg? Well, I think there's something obvious that no one mentions is that it makes it really hard to pay a ransom when you make it that public. That's why I think this is a red herring. You know, it's like, if I kidnap Jesse Waters, I'm not going to send a message to Fox. I'm going to send it to your parents and go, like, look, we're going to handle this.
I wouldn't go... I mean, why would you send it to TMZ? Why would you send it to if it if if you really wanted the money, there would have been a much easier way to do it than make it public. The only reason why you make it public is because it's a distraction and it's a red herring.
I did hear one analyst saying that they maybe because of the way they sent those messages to other news outlets and entertainment outlets in the U.S., like maybe the kidnappers are foreigners who are not as familiar. Oh, okay. They said the language within, and they could have used AI to write the notes, but they said that, Harvey said this on Hannity, that the language is impeccable.
And he said it's layered, which makes you think that there is a logical progression within the note itself. And also, it's not short. Real quick, Jonathan Hunt, I understand, is getting some more information about who is receiving this latest message that the family is hoping will be authenticated. What can you tell us, Jonathan?
Yeah, Gillian, one of the local TV stations here has confirmed that they were one of those, at least, that received this new message, CBS 13 News KOLD. Now, interestingly, they were one of the stations locally that received those original ransom notes now, and they appear to have got This follow up. No. And to Greg's point about why would you send these to TV stations?
Why would you send it to TMZ? You look at this. It could be something as simple as these people or this person does not have Savannah Guthrie's email address. I mean, she's a celebrity figure. She might be very careful about who can contact her. So it might be something as simple as that. So you want to get a message to people.
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Chapter 7: How do the protests impact local communities and schools?
Well, your childhood home has changed. It has? Hasn't it? Are you from South Africa? No, but thank you for... You were just complaining.
You wanted to bring back apartheid.
I was born right here in Manhattan at New York Hospital. Oh, could you ever visit the hospital, your childhood home? The hospital, no.
I have not.
Oh, okay. So you don't have to visit because you live here?
Greg, I'm American. Sorry to tell you.
Jesse, have you ever returned to your childhood home? I did. I did, and they gave me a tour. Really? And they did a great job with the place. I was thinking, like, Mom, come on. It looks good. Yeah, it looks much better. They, like, redid all the bathrooms. I went into the master bathroom. Like, I got a real nice tour. Nice, Kennedy.
I took my daughter two years ago, drove by my childhood home at the end of the street, and it was dilapidated, and they had the same landscaping we did from the late 70s. I was like, how about an update, people? What about you, Kaylee? So I went back and it looked smaller just because I grew up in a small town. So it was like very insular.
And we were on this golf course and I thought I lived in this like huge land. And then I'd never been to New York city until I was like 18. And I went back and I'm like, this place is so tiny and beautiful and sweet and wholesome. I went back a couple of years ago and it's amazing. I mean, it's,
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