Trump Wages War On A.I. Doomers
episodePreviously titled “The Five 09-15-2026” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 16, 2026
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What is Trump’s stance on AI doomerism and why is he urging optimism?
For the fuck.
Hello everyone, I'm Dana Perino, along with Emily Campagno, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City. This is the five.
President Trump trying to persuade AI doomers and gloomers to turn that frown upside down as fears mount that artificial intelligence could spiral out of control and threaten humanity. The president crashing a tech forum featuring NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang and making the case for full speed ahead on AI. Watch here.
And I'm telling you it's all a hoax. The data centers are great and they make people wealthy and they make states wealthy and it's the oil of the next twenty, twenty five years. It's bigger than the internet. The robots are not gonna be taking over the world and uh that's not gonna happen.
But the president's reassurance isn't easing everyone's concerns. The new bet signal some think AI should be treated like a nuclear weapon.
Nuclear weapons you discussed could be used for good or evil. But AI is the only technology that can can use itself. And that's what makes it so So unique as a technology and why it's so uniquely terrifying. It's like can you imagine when we had nuclear proliferation that you know Oppenheimer sold his bomb to regular companies? This is on that level.
Like nuclear weapons, artificial superintelligence is a threat to humanity and it must be treated as such.
Jessica Happy Book Release Day, which we'll talk about in a bit. Um look good first. If Bernie Sanders is the supposed wants to be the standard bearer on this issue, that might give some people a pause.
I think so. And the the fact that he's standing shoulder to shoulder with Steve Bannon is gonna give you even more pause. Uh an unlikely I know the horseshoe of politics is uh strange and makes for odd bedfellows, uh, but extremely skeptical of that. I was just saying before we started that I am moving around a lot between my not necessarily doomerism, but concern over what could happen, starting with the little stuff that everyone's been talking about for a long time. I'm not trying to minimize loss of jobs, but remember when it it feels quaint now, if we're talking nuclear weapons, that people would say pu uh regular working class people are gonna lose their jobs. And then it moved on to actually it's people with college degrees and we're not gonna need first, second, and third year associates anymore because everyone's gonna put those questions
into an LLM. And now we're at the end of humanity 10% chance in a few years, which feels like a drastic escalation. Um and obviously I I don't understand it on the level that anyone who worked at one of these companies would. But It feels like Jensen Wong has a vested interest in saying these AI companies should keep going full tilt and he'll keep making a lot of money and we can focus on anthropic and uh open AI for that. And I'm curious. If people think, I know that most of you are in the no regulation bucket, but I was reading about the AI regulations that Gavin Newsom has put in in California, a state that benefits the most of any other state in America from the AI boom. And he's found a way to, you know, protect kids, do these regular audits of AI.
And I feel like maybe California could be a bit of a roadmap to have some safe. Safeguards while still making sure that the technology can do the good stuff and continue progressing. Do you buy that, Jesse?
No, if Gavin Newsom's doing it, I'm gonna do the opposite. And they made that prediction that that AI was gonna take a lot of jobs. It hasn't happened. Exactly opposite has happened. AI has actually added jobs. And we're not saying we're against all AI regulation. We're just saying like let's see what it does first and let's just be prudent. 'Cause that's what people think of me. Prudence. So this is what they're telling us. They're telling us that this thing's gone rogue. No, it hasn't. It's designed to go rogue. They created it to have no control. They basically said this is a nuclear weapon without a kill switch. Let's go public.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is Trump’s stance on AI doomerism and why is he urging optimism?
0:00–5:25
2
How do the hosts compare AI risks to nuclear weapons and what analogies do they use?
5:25–10:44
3
Why do some commentators link AI regulation to the policies of Gavin Newsom in California?
10:44–16:14
4
What concerns are raised about AI‑driven job loss for both blue‑collar and college‑educated workers?
16:14–20:25
5
How is the controversy over Jessica Tarlov’s new book framed on the show?
20:25–25:46
6
Why is the Sydney Sweeney sports‑betting ad sparking a debate about sexualizing athletes?
25:46–30:45
7
What arguments are presented about free speech versus perceived censorship in advertising?
30:45–35:37
8
How do the hosts wrap up the episode with upcoming segments and calls to action?
35:37–40:10