The Fork Report w Neil Saavedra
Butta Butta Butta for Technique of the Week and Culinage Cookbook!
21 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hey, it's Neil Saavedra. You're listening to KFI AM 640, The Fork Report, on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Hey, Kayla. Yeah, Neil? What do you call a person who can't decide what kind of pizza to get?
Chapter 2: What culinary technique is highlighted in this episode?
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KFI AM 640 live everywhere on that there iHeartRadio app. Hey, everybody. It's the Fort Report. All things food, beverage, and beyond. I am your well-fed host, Neal Saavedra. How do you do? Thanks for hanging out. We got a lot to get to today. We got some great guests from local restaurants. You know, everybody's still struggling trying to make ends meet. And for Technique of the Week,
Let's get into butter, shall we? Butter. There was a story in the Wall Street Journal, and I must have been sent this story by at least five people. I don't know. People love butter. And the headline read, this is better than butter, whether you're cooking steaks or roasting vegetables.
and we've talked about this actually many many times on the show but i thought it'd be nice to get back into butter and explain what people refer to as culinary gold it's something often referred to as ghee or clarified butter small differences depending on you know ghee comes from india And their process, I think, is really one of the best for clarified butter. It gets a little extra nuttiness.
So what ends up happening is you cook out certain parts of the butter and then you sieve them out so you cook it down separate it and sieve them out and in that process you end up having something that is just pure butter fat Mmm. You don't have the milk solids. You don't have those things. And that will be part of our discussion today.
But I thought instead of just focusing on ghee or clarified butter. I'd go through all the different types of butter. So I'll get into this and I'll explain how to make it coming up in a moment. But let's start with the basics. Unsalted butter. Often you'll see it labeled sweet cream butter. Same, same and super versatile. It's used a lot in cooking and baking.
The reason why it is used often in cooking and baking so that the person baking or cooking can control the level of salt in baking i understand there's a lot of control there i've always thought this notion was silly you're talking about like a quarter of quarter teaspoon of salt that's what's in a stick of butter
I think a lot of this ā I've read article after article after article that some people ā There was kind of a conversion problem when some of the old, old recipes were kind of brought into modern day. But for whatever reason, people swear by this. And that's because different makers might put different amounts of salt in it. And I get all of that.
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Chapter 3: How is butter considered culinary gold?
So the milk fat is rendered from the butter. You separate the milk solids and the water from the butter fat. So you're cooking it at a low temperature. And as you're cooking it, when you put butter in a pan, you know how bubbles and kind of sizzles a little bit? Well, the reason that is, is that the fat is starting to heat up. And what does it mix? Oil and water.
So when you melt the butter down from a solid, the water in there starts to evaporate because the oil is heating up. That's why things make noise when you deep fry them. And that's why you don't want to put a frozen turkey deep fries, deep fry a frozen turkey for people who have done that. I have not, but I've seen the pictures because oil and water don't mix.
They mix even they have even less good times when the oil is hot. So that part of sizzling, once it starts to stop sizzling, then the water's gone. It's evaporated. Next, you're going to see these little bits of the milk fat start separating. And that's the process. Then you take it and you put it through. A sieve and a cheesecloth that will catch all that milk fat.
And what you'll have is clarified butter, no water in it and the milk solids removed. What does that do? Well, it gives it a nutty flavor. Because that milk fat in the process of rendering starts to caramelize and get that nutty flavor to it, which is wonderful. But really what it does is it changes the smoke point.
Smoke point is important in oils and fats because the smoke point is when they start to break down. that's when they lose some of their properties. That's when they start to get nasty smelling and things like that and end up bringing a foul odor and taste to something rather than the loveliness that they're supposed to. Butter comes in at about 325, 375. That's when it starts to break down.
That's when it starts to smoke really heavily. And that's why sauteing in butter, usually you'll cut it with some olive oil or something like that. The olive oil has a higher smoke point, kind of takes care of that and buffers the butter. But what you can do is saute. When you're doing steaks, if you're going to sear them off, you're roasting vegetables, you can use clarified butter or ghee.
And that'll boost that smoke point up to around 485. So you get about 100 degree higher heat out of clarified butter that doesn't have that milk fat. Also, a lot of it has the lactose, the casein that is the lactose and all of that kind of wicked out. And so those that are intolerant or have a milk allergy usually can handle clarified butter even better.
So you melt that butter, allow the things to separate, water evaporates, solids float to the surface, you skim them off, put them through a sieve and a cheesecloth. And what's left over is this beautiful, pure butterfat with a higher smoke point, still has a great flavor of butter, has a little nuttiness, great on popcorn, all of these things. it's a great thing to do.
But every once in a while, everybody starts praising it again, and it's been around forever. So we'll get back to butter, more different types of butter, organic, whipped butter, European style, all these things when we return with Technique of the Week. It is The Fork Report. I'm Neil Saavedra. Let's get the latest news now with KFI Newsroom.
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Chapter 4: What are the differences between ghee and clarified butter?
We respect everybody in their dietary limitations or dietary needs or dietary beliefs. Well, it's all welcome. But I will tell you that I am not somebody who will demonize something over something else. Because I just hate that. I think it causes problems with eating. I think it causes disorders. I think it causes all kinds of problems. We have learned over the years that animal fats are good.
They can be nutritious and they can be valuable in cooking. We've also learned that when we've tried to mess with fats and margarine and things like that growing up was very popular with us, that it didn't have the benefits that once were thought and actually caused some problems. So I will say that I agree. absolutely use animal fats. I eat animals too.
So it doesn't go against the way I live, but I want to recognize that out of respect to those that might have issues with it.
Moving on from clarified butter to organic butter comes from cattle raised without antibiotics, which really, the way we've moved through farming and having to use things like antibiotics and growth hormones and all those things, I'm equally as down upon as I am for antibiotics. proper raising and the proper care of these animals.
I know that might seem contradictory to some, but I just tell you the antibiotics in there, the growth hormones, all that stuff is more garbage than we need. So organic butter is is raised without those things, antibiotics, growth hormones.
They're given 100% organic feed, grown without toxic pesticides, synthetic fertilizer, all of that, and you can find it in unsalted and salted, and you use it just like conventional butter. Whipped butter. This has air or other gas, like nitrogen, and it's added to make it less dense than standard butter. So, kind of a little goes a long way.
This increased volume is, you know, less calories per tablespoon. It could even be half. and it's got a lighter texture, but just keep in mind it's got less calories because it's got more air in it. Best for spreading on toast, finishing dishes. It's not recommended for baking or cooking at all. It's just a spread.
It's just a spread, easier to spread because it's got the air in it, and it's lighter and whipped and all that. European-style butter, which a lot of people love. I do, too. This is why French croissants are so... lovely and airy and delicious. It's got extra milk fat 82 to 85% for most brands. So your European style butter has less moisture.
It's got less of that water in there than standard butter. And it's got all that milk fat in it. So this is like the opposite. The clarified butter makes pastries tender, fluffy cakes. It's often it's made with fermented or cultured cream. So it has a little bit of tang to it and it could be used for any sort of cooking task. Spreadable butter is regular butter and some vegetable oil added in.
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Chapter 5: How can I use unsalted versus salted butter in cooking?
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Oui. I made sure to look it up. It is an actual word. I can't remember what language, but it is a word. Nothing bad or anything like that. But yeah, I definitely made sure to look it up before committing to something like this.
Yeah, like you get it in English. You're like, this is great. And you find out, well, that's about the little space between the nevermind. I don't want to know. Kicked him in the colonnade. So, okay, let's break this down. Like we're talking to five-year-olds because not the audience is super smart, but it's such a neat concept, but it's new enough that they have to understand.
Somebody wants to... commemorate, somebody wants to log, somebody wants to put down the recipes of their family. Step one.
Step one. So the moment you sign up, whether it's a gift or whether it's for yourself, our AI actually generates four weekly prompts for you. We do it every month. And the prompts are based off of your cultural background and the cuisines you like to cook at home. And it also takes into account the time of year. So right now we're in the holiday season.
So the questions are all kind of based around, you know, what's that one dish that everyone asks you to make for the holidays? Or like, what's one tradition that you do every holiday and a dish that you like to make for it? So the first thing you do when you first sign in, whether you're a gift recipient or personal use, is you get that question.
And you can start writing your recipe right away, or you can actually upload an image of a handwritten card or printed out recipe, whatever it might be. And the AI actually extracts everything for you. Even in cursive? Even in cursive. Dun, dun, dun, which the good ones are always in cursive. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So...
Once you come up with an answer to the prompt and what dish you're going to write down, it brings you right into a video recording experience. You could choose to either video record or voice record, or type it in yourself. But I found that the video recording brings more of a natural conversation about the dish. And that ends up being like your introduction.
It gets transcribed automatically for you. Wow, how cool is that? Yeah, and it's supposed to be just super easy to use. You don't have to type a word if you don't want to. And that was kind of the user experience I wanted to go for.
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