The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guests: Rep. Anna Paulina Luna & Axel Bouchon | 2/20/26
20 Feb 2026
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Chapter 1: What are the latest developments regarding the Trump administration and UFOs?
Well, it's Friday, so what the hell? Why not talk about aliens and little green men? This story just will not go away. Is it real? I mean, the things that have happened this week now lead us to a place to where the president says, you know, I'm going to instruct the Pentagon just to release all of the UFO files. Is this real or is this a psyop that we've been being played for a very long time?
Also, some really cool, cool news from a neuroscientist who joins me on the show. He tried an experiment putting a payphone in San Francisco and one in Abilene, Texas. The one in Abilene, Texas, you pick it up and it says, talk to a Democrat. And the one in San Francisco says, talk to a Republican. You pick it up, the other side rings. What did he find? It's an amazing story.
Also, Representative Anna Paulina Luna on Epstein. What is really going on? What's out there and what should we be striving for? All that and so much more on today's best of podcast. First, let me tell you about our sponsor, American Giant. My father left the house well before six. You know, sometimes he would leave at three o'clock in the morning and he had to do the bakery.
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Chapter 2: How does Axel Bouchon's experiment connect people across political divides?
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Chapter 3: What insights does neuroscience provide about human connection?
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Epstein case discussed by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna?
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. You know, as I'm watching everything that's unfolding with the Epstein files, I just don't understand why people are being investigated and actually seemingly going to jail for the first time in 400 years. a Royal has been arrested in Prince Andrew. Uh, he's not even, he's Andrew now.
Um, and, uh, he is going to jail, but not for anything that he might've done with Epstein except trade secrets. That's the thing that got him into trouble was he was, he was passing on English secrets to Epstein, which is a whole nother ball game entirely. Um, But I don't understand how we can say that he was trafficking, you know, women underage. And yet there's no Johns going to jail.
There's no we don't have any. Who is he trafficking him to? Why don't we have any of this information? There was a tweet that was sent out by Representative Anna Paulina Luna, and she said, Susan Hamblin sent this email. She took a plea deal and was given victim status under previous DOJ. DOJ should look into charges. Possible human rights violations were committed.
I say that based on other files with her name on it, these women don't get to hide behind redactions. There's so many victims, none of which did what this woman did. This needs to be reopened. And she gives an email. It just says, thank you for a fun night. Your littlest girl was a little naughty. And she wrote it to Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, Anna is with us now to explain what you might know or why you would say that. Because she, somebody, the son...
actually made charges against her and they had to apologize uh and i think they paid a pretty big price for it um because they liable libeled her or so she apparently proved uh in court what do you know uh anna who is this woman i don't want to get into anything that's liable but what do you know why would you say this
I know that many, and this is based on what I've gone through in some of the files. I've spent about maybe six, seven hours with the files directly and plan on going back in to see more. But from what I've gathered and from what I've reviewed, after looking at an FBI co-conspirator document, she was actually... allegedly named as a co-conspirator by the FBI.
Ultimately, that was during Epstein's second run-in with law enforcement in New York. And it wasn't just her. It was a list of many other women as well, one of which was Ghislaine Maxwell, yet Ghislaine Maxwell is the only one sitting in prison. And I think when we're talking about the crimes that were committed by Jeffrey Epstein, well, he didn't just do it alone.
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Chapter 5: What evidence exists about the alleged co-conspirators in the Epstein case?
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Let me just take you to the beginning of the week. At the beginning of the week, Barack Obama is on a podcast. And he's asked, are aliens real? And he says, they're real, but I haven't seen them. And they're not being kept in, what is it, Area 51. Okay. Everybody goes crazy. What is Obama doing? Blah, blah, blah. Then Laura Trump...
the president's daughter comes out and she says, what was it exactly? My dad has a speech ready to go, right? To talk about aliens. You're like, wait, what is happening here? Then after that, you have the president coming out yesterday and he says he's going to direct Hegseth to release all government UFO files. Okay, so let's listen to that. Can we listen to that? I think it's cut seven.
We've been getting a lot of attention this week. Barack Obama said that aliens are real. Have you seen any evidence of non-human visitors to Earth?
Well, he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. So aliens are real? Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I can tell you he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information. No, I don't have an opinion on it. I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it.
Do you believe it, Peter?
Well, the president can declassify anything that he wants to.
I may get him out of trouble by declassifying. We know illegal aliens, really. Yeah, illegal. Only illegals. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is crazy. You wouldn't be breaking the classified information rule if you were saying they didn't exist and they didn't exist. That's not classified information. Why would you classify that they didn't exist? So he violated classified information.
I don't know what that means. And so then he says, yeah, I just might release all of the government files. Now he says he might do a lot of things, um, on things like this and you know, who knows, but let me just take you back a couple of weeks, shall I? There was a story in the New York post and I don't even know it was in our show prep and I don't even know if we got to it.
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Chapter 6: How does the discussion about aliens relate to societal fears?
And if you picked up the phone, it would ring in the other city and then people would pick up. Let me show you what happened. It's an amazing experiment. Let me play a little clip of what I saw.
We bought this payphone on Facebook Marketplace, and then modified it a bunch, and then changed the signage to say, call a Republican. And then we brought the payphone to San Francisco, California, which is the most liberal city in America. And then we installed the payphone outside of Black Serum Tattoo, of course, with their permission.
And after we installed the phone, we then got on a flight to Texas, where we bought another payphone in Dallas, and drove it two hours west to Abilene, the most conservative city in America. And then at an Airbnb, we modified it a bunch and had it say, call a Democrat on it. And then we installed this payphone outside of 7-in-1 books, of course, with their permission.
And when you pick up this phone in Texas, it automatically calls the other phone in San Francisco. And when you pick up the phone in San Francisco, it automatically calls this one in Texas. The project is called The Party Line. And the goal is to get people from different political viewpoints to have meaningful, not hateful conversations.
Because at a biological level, humans are far more similar than we are different. And while political discourse often causes stress, human-to-human friendly conversations reduce the stress in our brains and activate the neurotransmitters dopamine and cannabinoids, which make us happier.
So the guy who did it is Axel Bouchon, and he's a neuroscientist. He's not some political guy. He's a neuroscientist, and he is the CEO and founder of Matter Neuroscience. And his experiment was, what happens to our brains when we're given the opportunity to find connection over animosity? Axel, what a great experiment. Thanks for being on the program with me.
Well, thanks for having me, Glenn. Yeah, I mean... We try to really translate neuroscience into something you can feel. That's kind of almost like what we do actually since a very long time, to be honest.
What did you find? Because I've seen some of the conversations and they're amazing. I didn't expect it. Amazing.
Yeah. Maybe I just take one step back to quickly explain what we are. Because we're actually a hardcore neuroscience biotech company. And we started because... Today, we don't really understand why people get depressed on a molecular level. So our company tries to find a biomarker for happiness and depression.
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Chapter 7: What role does human interaction play in reducing political animosity?
So you would think somebody is going to pick up the phone and go, I got to give you a piece of my mind. Instead it was, So what's it like there? What's happening around you? And it was very normal. It was weird.
Yeah. Weird or I think normal, right? So I also have to admit. Yeah. I mean, normal.
Normal is weird now. I don't know if you know that. Everything is upside down.
But you see, for me, the scientist who only looks at molecules and cells, I cannot see any differences anyways between the political directions. So for me, we are all the same. So the key thing for me was actually to kind of just like help us feel that we have really a very, very strong similarity.
Interestingly, even when the conversations moved towards political topics, it was interesting to observe that nobody was kind of subscribing 100% to everything of their respective party. It was always like, hey, I don't like this particular part, but I like the other thing. And so it was interesting that actually almost
central america right so i'm from germany right there was a there's like we're like a very strong center party but we had it right so in a way it feels like in the middle most probably even 90 in the middle most probably agree on a lot of things i'm not saying everything but it sounded like almost everything so i know was there a conversation that you did here that really struck you uh as unique or important
um so actually several because it was just like everybody just wanted to be okay so it was just topics to where you are okay it was about food it was about how is the weather it was about how what do you do today how is the family so like literally the foundation of being just okay and that when you hear it over and over again
That was, I think, the remarkable thing, that across, I would almost say 90% of the conversations, that was the joint false, like, just be OK. And so I couldn't kind of pick one that is an outlier on this. What I think was interesting for us is that we received, and that's so confirming, that we received, I think, one email with negative writing.
So all voice messages, everything with, with voice was okay. Writing was negative. We got only one negative.
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