2022 was a massive year for rugby in England, the sport’s having a tough old time off the pitch, so Hask and Alex invited themselves to Twickenham for a coffee with the big dogs; the CEOs of the PRL and the RFU, Simon Massie-Taylor and Bill Sweeney. The boys manage to peel back the curtain of the goings on in the corridors of power, learn about the men behind the jobs, as well as Eddie’s dismissal, Borthwick’s ascension, Wasps & Worcester and the future of domestic rugby from the prem to grassroots. They talk Championship, Red Roses, Prem 15s, marketing, investment, sponsorship, broadcast deals and the global calendar… strap yourself in for a whistle stop tour of the problems and solutions in the game, as Bill & Simon see it. There’s no stone left unturned in this extended show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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