Hegseth Says War Will Go On ‘Until We Decide,’ and a Tariff Refund Update

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Previously titled “Hegseth Says War Will Go On ‘Until We Decide,’ and U.S. Court Moves Toward Ordering Tariff Refunds” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026

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What recent events have escalated tensions with Iran?

Dan Barry 0:00
I'm Dan Barry, and I'm a long-time reporter with The New York Times. I've been here for 30 years and I've seen a lot of things change. I was here before there was a website. But one thing hasn't changed at all, and that's the mission of the New York Times. To follow the facts wherever they lead. And if that means publishing something a government or a leader or a celebrity doesn't want aired, that's not our concern. If you believe in the importance of fact-driven reporting, you can support it by becoming a New York Times subscriber.
Tracey Mumford 0:34
From The New York Times, it's The Headlines. I'm Tracey Mumford. Today's Thursday, March 5th. Here's what we're covering.
Tracey Mumford 0:45
Less than a week into the war with Iran... New polling shows most Americans disapprove of the attacks. In the Senate, Republicans have blocked an effort to limit President Trump's war powers. And the conflict is spreading beyond the Middle East. To start, a CNN poll conducted immediately after the strikes shows about 60% of Americans oppose the military action. The Washington Post and Reuters' Ipsos found similar results. breaking it down by party, all three polls showed that Democrats were nearly universally opposed, while Republicans were generally supportive.
Unknown 1:25
In the Senate, We are at war. We are at war having had no national debate over whether we should enter into war.
Tracey Mumford 1:32
Democrats pushed for a measure that would have limited Trump's ability to continue attacking Iran without congressional authorization.
Unknown 1:41
But... President Trump decided to attack Iran. That decision was profound, deliberate, and correct.
Tracey Mumford 1:48
Republicans blocked it.
Unknown 1:50
The ayes are 47, the nays are 53. The motion to discharge is not approved.
Tracey Mumford 1:55
The House is expected to vote on a similar measure today. It is also expected to fail. Meanwhile, more and more countries are finding themselves entangled in the conflict. Yesterday, an American submarine struck an Iranian Navy ship off the coast of Sri Lanka, more than 2,000 miles from Tehran.
Pete Hegseth 2:16
It was sunk by a torpedo. Quiet death.
Tracey Mumford 2:19
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said it was the first time the U.S. had sunk an enemy ship by a torpedo since World War II. And he vowed that the U.S. and Israel would not let up in their attacks.
Pete Hegseth 2:31
Every minute of every day until we decide it's over.
Tracey Mumford 2:36
At the same time, NATO air defenses shot down an Iranian missile yesterday heading toward Turkish airspace. Iran has denied it, but an attack on Turkey, which is a member of NATO, could activate NATO's mutual defense clause, potentially drawing all of the alliance's 32 member countries into the war. Britain and France have already announced they're deploying their navies and air forces to help repel Iranian attacks. And in the Gulf, multiple countries have reported new strikes.
Vivian Neerheim 3:07
Over the last few days, we've seen, you know, five-star hotels catch fire in Dubai. You know, we've seen major global airports shut down because they've been targeted by Iranian missiles and drones. We've seen people fleeing through the land borders of countries that have long been safe, like the UAE and Qatar, trying to find any escape route. Vivian Neerheim is the Times Gulf bureau chief.

How do Americans feel about military action in Iran?

Vivian Neerheim 3:31
Iranian officials say that the reason they've been shooting these, you know, hundreds of missiles and drones at the Gulf countries is because they host these American military bases, right? And they claim that they're only targeting American military installations, American embassies, American soldiers. Of course, on the ground, what we're seeing is a bit wider, and it's hard to speculate about what the motivation is, but it's undeniable that by spraying missiles and drones all over the Gulf, which is this incredibly important node in the global economy... The Iranian government is raising the cost of the war for President Trump. And while they have really kind of robust air defense systems supplied by the United States and European countries, no one's air defense systems are perfect in dealing with drones.
Tracey Mumford 4:14
One thing to note, in a drone-heavy conflict like this one, the math is not necessarily on America's side.

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