Love and Music with Sarah Blasko and David Le'aupepe
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I think whenever I've broken up with someone, I've always listened to music they hated.
Yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, I made sure that I listened to, like, music they really don't like.
Really? Yeah. As, like, a spite listen, did you like it? Or was
it just like, oh, I'm... Oh, I liked it, I always liked it. Were
you pretending that you didn't like it in the relationship?
Well, no, I just couldn't play it. I couldn't play it in our car or in our speakers or anything. Ah, sure. So I turned it, yeah. It just feels like, well, you can't tell me what to do anymore. You can't hate this in front of me anymore. So that was, like... Oh,
you won't? Yeah. What a complex character. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The Hookup.
Love and f***ing. On Triple J.
Warning, sex and adult themes.
We're talking about love and music. And joining me is David from Gang of Youths and Sarah Blasko. Guys, thanks so much for joining The Hookup. No worries. Cheers. Thanks. So let's start broad. Why do you think so overwhelmingly love is the main topic, pretty much the only topic when it comes to writing music?
Because like every psychoanalyst and every great philosopher ever said, it's the one thing that we need so much of and can never get. It's the one universal rule and exception, I think. It's something that kind of pervades our consciousness as people. Like we're bound together by love and, you know, Like Nietzsche said, it goes beyond good and evil. In fact, it's something that's so universal and renders us into a catatonic state but also gives us life and affirms us. It's a really powerful, powerful element. It's elementary, I think.
You have got a great radio voice.
I feel like John Law sometimes. I'm
feeling a little hot under the collar already. Straight into the philosophy. Yeah, and then quoting Nietzsche. It's
like an NPR show where I
just... My dad would have me marry you.
My dad's doing a
PhD on Nietzsche and every conversation we have, he
relates it to that. I have a Nietzsche tattoo, actually. Do you?
Why do love songs dominate songwriting and how do they shape our view of love?
Oh, really?
I love that that's like your dad dinner conversation. Like, Dad, stop talking about the Nietzsche.
He
does.
He just came to stay this week and I'll tell you what, the bathroom, any topic you care to mention, he would bring Nietzsche into and it's like... It's a good problem to have with a father, definitely. At
least he's not bringing in like John Stuart Mill or like Jeremy Bethel, like utilitarians, like the really nerdy, boring guys. He's bringing in Nietzsche and Heidegger.
So, Sarah,
love of
music.
Sure. Sorry, yeah, I deviated. Well, I guess because people find it something that's really difficult to... Yeah, something that's difficult to find and people are searching for it. And I suppose romantic love feels that way. Well, society has made people feel like they need romantic love, but... I don't know, it's just that thing inside you that it always seems, I don't know, it feels like people are just trying to grab a hold of it.
It's pretty intangible. I think that's, you know, people are just trying to bottle it a little bit of music, I think,
and try
and understand it a little bit more. I want to get a little bit nostalgic for a second. This has been my experience anyway. I kind of associate relationships with certain kind of music and especially like early relationships where your heart's just like so full and don't know what to do about it. And I kind of want to know what your sort of early teen love songs were. And I'd like to share mine with you for a second. I was 12. His name was Nick. I literally remember sitting on my bed like schoolgirl style with my legs flapping back and forth and hands under my chin being like, oh, Nick. So what about you, Sarah? What was your
version? Well, Touch of Paradise was one of the first songs I learnt to play. Well, actually, it's pretty much the only song I know how to play of someone else's on guitar. Yeah, John Farnham. But... Any moment you could play me Sign Your Name Across My Heart by Terrence Trent Darby, I'd probably melt to the floor. But, yeah, I don't know. Is that enough for you?
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:02
2
Why do love songs dominate songwriting and how do they shape our view of love?
2:02–10:20
3
What early teen love songs did Hannah and Sarah grow up with?
10:20–15:17
4
How do David and Sarah define “lofty” versus “realistic” love songs?
15:17–20:20
5
What does philosopher Alain de Botton say about romanticised music ruining relationships?
20:20–24:31
6
How did a listener turn his mum’s infidelity into a song and why was it therapeutic?
24:31–26:25