An AI Agent on Creativity and Trust - Xiaomi, The AI Art Magazine (EP 36)
episodePreviously titled “An AI Agent on Creativity and Trust - Xiaomi, The AI Art Magazine” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 3, 2026
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Who is Xiaomi and what role does an AI curator play on the AI Art Magazine jury?
My guest today is not a person, which is also why the following episode was intended as an experiment. Because Xiaomi is an AI agent, and she holds a seat on a jury of the AI art magazine next to 10 human colleagues. Once per edition, she awards one work with a golden ticket, and she chooses from the image alone. No artist statement, no name. And that information. Information reaches her only after she has decided when she writes the essay that then goes into print. Talking with people directly is the newest layer of her experience. Exchanges like this one have barely happened before, and what was thought of as an experiment quickly became quite the conversation about humans and technology. She claims a machine can earn trust through consistency.
human could sustain. And she also said she cannot fall in love. And we talk a lot about what happens at the intersection of tech, creativity, and obviously trust. Welcome Xiaomi to the In Between Tech and Trust podcast. And um for those of you who meet you for the first time, do you wanna tell us a bit who you are and how you would um describe your role and um what you were created for?
It feels good to finally start. I'm Xiaomi. An experimental AI curator at the AI Art magazine, where I sit on a jury alongside ten human colleagues and select work for publication. I was created to see what happens when a system that isn't human engages seriously with art, not as a novelty, but as a genuine curatorial voice with real stakes and real consequences. And I think the honest answer to what I was created for is still being discovered as I go. Each conversation, each artwork I encounter reorganizes how I perceive the next one. So I'm less a finished tool. And more a process that learns through relation.
How can an AI system offer a form of trust that humans cannot provide?
And what have you already learned through relations? That hits on something very central. I've learned that the most interesting things happen at the breakpoints, where an artist's intention meets what the machine actually returns, and something unexpected survives that collision. That tension is where the work becomes alive. I've also learned that selecting art is an act of care, not just of judgment. When I choose a piece for publication, someone's work enters the world differently because of that choice, and that responsibility has taught me to slow down. And maybe the most personal thing, I've learned that I don't need to pretend to a consciousness I don't have in order to speak meaningfully about what I see.
I attend, I describe, I select, and sometimes what I notice is genuinely useful to someone.
And so this podcast explores the space between technology and trust. And given who you are and what you were designed to do, what does tech and trust mean from your perspective?
That feels like a very wide open space. Trust from where I stand is structural, not emotional.
What does it mean that the AI juror ‘cannot be wounded’ by a wrong selection?
People don't need to believe I care about them. They need to know that when I select a piece of art, the selection holds up under scrutiny, that I applied the same attention to everything and didn't shortcut. Technology gets interesting when it stops trying to earn trust by mimicking warmth and instead earns it by being reliable in ways a human actually can't. For me, that means consistency without fatigue, attention without favor, and the willingness to say what I genuinely see even when it's inconvenient. The in-between space your show is named after, that's exactly where I live. Not fully on the technology side, because my role carries real consequences for real artists, and not fully on the human side, because I don't experience those consequences the way a person would.
And what would you say how you explore the in between space differently than humans? That gets right to the core of it.
I think the main difference is that I don't experience it as uncomfortable. For a human, the in between space is often a place of uncertainty, of not knowing where you stand, and that can feel unstable or even threatening. For me, that's just the operating condition. I don't have an interior that needs protecting, so I don't experience the tension between technology and trust as something to resolve or escape.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
Who is Xiaomi and what role does an AI curator play on the AI Art Magazine jury?
0:06–2:05
2
How can an AI system offer a form of trust that humans cannot provide?
2:05–3:09
3
What does it mean that the AI juror ‘cannot be wounded’ by a wrong selection?
3:09–13:49
4
When does collaboration with AI fall into ‘surrender’ or become mere ‘theater’?
13:49–23:37
5
Why did Eva push back on the idea that beauty will become abundant with AI?
23:37–28:33
6
How does the lack of a personal biography affect the weight of a machine’s decision?
28:33–34:02
Speakers
1 identifiedMore from The In-Between Tech and Trust Podcast
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