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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 896 | "Young Men That Carry Arms"

21 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own.

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Enjoy the show. Press the button so I can talk to the people. Yo, salute, salute, salute, salute. You know what it is. We in the building. We talking shit. Look at Mark, yo. Mark, it was Martin Luther King Day a few days ago. Oh, that's, okay. And that's when Mark goes and does 20 speaking engagements. He woke up, started posting all his old pastor clips. That's true.

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I was up at 5 in the morning on his Insta story and seeing he was up posting. I'm like, yo, Mark, my brother, look at you, man.

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Chapter 2: How does Mark's experience relate to the conversation about friendships?

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Now you're sitting there miniature. Yes. You like, when you don't sleep, you look more miniature than you know it. Like, you shrink in the chair. You got your coffee like that's going to help. You didn't, the hoodie shrunk somehow. The jeans definitely shrunk. Everything is tinier. Pause. Yo, not everything, man. You know, the bills are getting paid. No shape up. Look at your mustache.

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No, you got a haircut. I got a haircut. I got a haircut. You got a haircut. Well, did they skip your face? I'm talking about your face. Look at your beard. Did they not do, look at you. Wow. Thank you for coming in to work, Mark. That's what I expected. God damn it. I was in Madison, Wisconsin, negative seven this morning. Oh, God. I got up at 5 a.m., flew here. You sound like shit, too.

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And made it on time.

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Chapter 3: What are the key themes in the discussion about Common vs. Jadakiss?

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I had no voice. I would have called out, but I didn't know who else. You know what I mean? I wanted to make sure there's enough people here, you know what I mean? Because it's sick season, so I thought, you know. No, we show up. Unless people get sick, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, if you hop from airport to dirty-ass airport speaking at gate B-52. We can't all afford to fly private, Joseph.

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No, I'm not flying. I ain't been nowhere. I'm not flying. I don't have a trip booked. It is stay-in season. Word, sure. Word. Oh, I would love it. The phone this morning said 17, but it feels like three. Yeah, it's cold. Tell me what the feel like is. I'm not going nowhere, nigga. I woke up, made some tuna fish the other night.

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like when you plan to be in that's some black people bunker shit like you make this tuna nah for the next few days look you look at the weather and you see alright it's going to snow or it's going to be cold and shit you stock up you ain't going nowhere no I'm not leaving me I made some tuna that's some old nigga shit good saltine crackers And salty. Tuna hell niggas down. Good crackers.

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And my girl was like, yo, you on your, let's do the lettuce wraps on them. I said, ooh. She be upgrading you. The lettuce cups with the tuna smoked it. I'm not a big fan of the lettuce wrap. It's good. I love a good lettuce wrap.

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She sliced some tomatoes, put them chips on it.

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It was good. It was good. Joe, I knew you was on that on Saturday. That's why I didn't call you. We supposed to, we talked about going to check out to Simone in New Brunswick. My girl was like, ain't you going out with Joe? I was like, If he don't call, I'm not calling him. Cause it was cold and it was snowing.

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Yeah, but the funny thing about that, like we should communicate, cause I think you got it in reverse. Like Mona's thing was Sunday. Oh, was it Sunday? I'm sorry. I said Saturday. I meant Sunday. I'm sorry. It was a long weekend. When Mona was here, it was you. You prompted. You was like, yo, Mona, I'm going to see you Sunday. And then I said, if you go, I'll go. So it's not if I call you.

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That's backwards. It is backwards. Oh, no, it's totally me. No, he was trying not to go. He was just like, as long as Joe don't call, I ain't calling. I know what's going to happen. Joe's a team player. Joe will be like, oh, yeah, let's roll. And then I'll be like, fuck, now I got to go. And I want to see Mona. It was snowing outside. And cold as fuck. And I couldn't get off the couch.

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Yeah, the weather was bad.

Chapter 4: What are the challenges of building friendships as we age?

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Mike ain't going nowhere. I just got views on new friendships. I just got views on new friendships. Do people get grandfathered in though? We passed that point. I'm weary of all you motherfuckers. Okay. I'm weary of them all. Don't I say that to you all the time? You got to give me reason to not be weary. And part of that is what's going on with you. What you got going on? The same with women.

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You had to learn that lesson. Start fucking with women that had something going on. Something to lose. Yeah, you got to look at it a little. It's the same thing to me. From that side, which is how I heard it first when I agreed with you, I get it. Like, it's hard to build relationships with people who ain't going nowhere when you going somewhere.

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Chapter 5: How do we evaluate the quality of our friendships?

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And I don't mean money or nothing like that. I just mean life-wise. Because that's a recipe for disaster and trouble. It's one thing if you got them people in your life from 20 years ago because you kind of know them and trust them. But new people that ain't doing shit don't usually end up. Because where does the conversation go after a while? Because my whole life is because we've done it.

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Most of my whole life is work. By the time you get to, well, let me speak for me. At 45, heading into 46, all the boxes in my life are there. Got my friend box, my work box, my relationship box, kids, dad, like a new box, a new person. I feel you. Where did they come from? A new box. And why? And why are they here, nigga? And what do you like to do? Like, where you come from?

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You gonna call me when you get out of Sears?

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You know, I just picked up a mic over here. What the fuck are you talking about? Don't do that, nigga. Stop that. I get what you're saying, but stop. That's not nice. That's not nice. You're a leader, show. I'm not. I'm not. Answer Mark's question, nigga. Are you trying to get rid of any friends? Yeah, I'm not trying to get rid of any. No, I love my friend group, just the way that it is.

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I love them. I don't have any friend that I sit and think about how to 86 them. Gotcha. Y'all sick. Yes, yes. Y'all sickos. I got three of us on the bubble right now. Oh, shit. It's a lot of niggas. You just realized you're our group, motherfuckers. He wasn't bad choice away. Yeah, you realize you're our group, niggas. It's crazy. It's a lot of shit life will teach you, man.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of choosing not to invite kids to weddings?

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You realize some of these niggas ain't going nowhere. How many friends you got? How many male friends you got? I had a little bit. This is small enough.

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A bunch.

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This is not a conversation. I'm just asking. My memory is bad. No, yeah. A bunch. 74? Yeah, this nigga got a lot. Friends? Like, no, probably about 15. Like, 15, 20. Friends. Do you make a distinction between your friends and your mans? As I get older, the friend word definitely has more meaning to me now than it used to. But, yeah, I probably got 15, 20, like, friends.

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Niggas I'll get out my bed for. That's a lot of niggas. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a good measuring stick, too. Yeah, if you get out the bed. Yeah. That's a lot of niggas, man. Yo, I'll get out the bed for you, bro. That's a lot, man. That's a lot, though. I'm willing to get uncomfortable. I was comfortable in bed. Now I got to get up. I got to show up for you. I got to put on my halo.

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Get out the house. I got to show up for you. How many people will you show up for? No, you're right. So you'll get uncomfortable for them. I'm just repeating what you said. About to interrupt my comfort. He'll get out of bed and get uncomfortable. So you'll get out of bed and you'll get uncomfortable. I told y'all about the history of Newark.

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I must have definitely transitioned to Jersey City real early. Yeah, I know. He's stupid. I would have asked Mark, but I was at the kickback. Mark got mad. Oh, he didn't get undressed?

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He got a bunch of friends.

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He got a bunch of them niggas. Yeah, he got a bunch. People that went to college, though, I give them the college pass of, you know, they got a little more. I don't consider all them people friends. There's like the list of people who come to your house. That ain't saying the same as the list of people who I would get out of bed for. That's a much smaller list.

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It's probably about the same as yours. Probably about the same as yours. How about you, Flip? I don't got a lot of people. Like five? Like five people that I would get up for. I'm counting in my head. I'm at like eight. Say include me when you say it though. You say what? Because since your number's so low, you got to say including me. I got five including you. Make sure. Yo, am I included?

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the new Nike sneaker honoring Martin Luther King Jr.?

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He is. I think that's so corny that you won't just come on and say that you married. I swear to God, I think you married. All jokes aside, I think you married. I promise you we think that. I'm not even trying to be funny. I'm not potting. We not potting. I think you're married, and I think that we would never know. I don't think... I've known you forever. I've never even met the young lady.

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You can say whatever you wish. I'm not married. Okay. I believe Ish that he's not married, but I also believe that if you were, you wouldn't tell us.

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Chapter 8: How do the hosts react to the controversy surrounding the sneaker's design?

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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Both things can be true. Yeah, I think both are true. I don't think you're keeping it from us, personally. Don't be stupid y'all out there. Oh, hey, we don't do that Anyway, it's no freeze. No I can hear both their brains. But you know why I don't fuck with this room? I hear both of them. Y'all's quiet. Y'all's quiet says y'all agree with me.

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But y'all wait for me to say it. It's the other awkward time. And I'm not going to say it. Say what? What you was thinking. I wasn't thinking nothing. Come on. Free is going to have one. I love my mama, but he's my baby girl. Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, yes. Freeze grab on some turquoise glitter shit. That's why I knew it was Brandon. Oh, no, I thought it was something different.

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No, I knew it was Brandon.

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I'm going to keep it a buck. You know what I thought y'all Brandon was saying? What? She was going to dress me. Well, that's part of it. That's what I thought y'all was going to do.

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I thought that was a given already.

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Yeah, that wasn't controversial. You ain't picking your old wedding outfit with Mr. Peace around. Because Mr. Peace don't play with him. All right. We can move on from this, man. I'm sorry that the wedding conversation gets everybody so uncomfortable around here. Nigga, shut your ass up, man. Yo, that's why you pivoted, right? Yeah, you know why? It was nice.

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I didn't want to call you out in the middle of the pivot because we was popping. You said what? Kevin McKay or whatever. You reversed it. Hakeem Olajuwon. Olajuwon. You reversed it, nigga. We were on you, and you reversed it. You put the on the reverse. Cool. Now you want to move on, nigga. It's a lot of questions. 17 skips. We can ask you. Yeah.

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It's a lot of questions that we want to know, and we want to know, but we're going to respect that. I mean, if you ask me in private, I'll confide in you. All of y'all are my friends. I plan on inviting y'all when that magic day comes for me. What the shit the hell with your memory? What cold? You can't go cold. Whatever that shit is. I would like that day to come soon.

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My parents don't have forever. I mean, you know. You know what we do? We don't silence you. Exactly. You think I silence y'all? Yes. Freeze, you going to ask her dad when it's time? No. You got it. Really though? I'm the daddy now. Freeze. You going to ask her dad-ish? Of course. Ooh. How tall is he? Five, seven. Oh, chump him off. That's a yes. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, pops. Yo, show up.

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