#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino
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What are the origins of Video Archives?
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So you're saying that someone was telling you how to kill someone with coffee?
Okay, so I got to know all these. You were talking about some... His name's John McPhee. Some operators. And I got to know through a friend, through a billionaire friend who loaned his plane to Clinton to fly those people out of, I think, North Korea. And so from that point on, he was surrounded by these guys. And one of them, this guy Mikey, which isn't his real name. I think he's actually named, they name them all after the archangels. So he was like Michael. Oh, Jesus. Gabriel. They take on these names.
There's nothing creepier than an assassin with a biblical name. Name after an archangel.
Yeah. And well, you know. And so he, you know, we got to know each other because of our mutual friend. And I think what happened was he and a couple of the other guys, you know, they were placed on me as like for surveillance purposes, like, you know. find out what this Avery guy's about maybe, or just keep an eye on him or whatever. And they told me right up front, like, be nice to your surveillance, you know, like, don't try to lose us or anything like that. Because I heard stories about how, you know, they're surveilling somebody in wherever, Bolivia. And suddenly some gang attacks their surveillance and they step in, kick the shit out of the gang. And so I got to know these guys. And naturally, you know, I'm a writer and filmmaker. And so I, of course, want to talk to them about stuff. And they immediately started volunteering. Oh, yeah, we've learned all these different ways when I became an operator, blah, blah, blah. I learned how to kill people without. And I was just making a list now of the 10 ways to kill someone without leaving a trace. I was like, well.
Just like when I told Quentin about this, he's like, well, what are those? I'd like to hear those. Everybody wants to hear those. And so one of the ones that I think is the best one is you inject someone with coffee, caffeine, like just inject coffee into their bloodstream, gives them a heart attack. And it's untraceable. Later on, they do an autopsy and they just discover caffeine in your system.
That's it? That's it. Just right into the blood?
Coffee can kill you? Sometimes the simple ways are the best.
Just right into the juggler with a syringe?
Yes. Jesus. After extracting whatever information you need to get out of him. How much coffee will kill you like that? A syringe worth? I don't know. Is it the Turkish kind or is it Folgers?
Cuban espresso?
Yeah. But he was a medic during the war. Well, The war. And he was a medic. And so he, you know, was kind of identified as somebody who knew how to kill somebody very easily because, you know, what will work.
Yeah.
Because you're a medic. And so, you know, I would hear every now and then I'd kill some guy and some diplomat or something in the Philippines and hit him with my car and whatever. I'd look in my rearview mirror and make a determination, a medical determination of, you know, is the guy still alive or is he better finish him off and put him in reverse and drive him over again a couple of times and then take off. And he's doing that all the time.
All the time they're doing it. Well, Jamie and I were just talking. They think they have a photo of the guy who whacked that insurance CEO. Oh, yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, they think they have a photo of his face now.
Oh, they do, huh?
Well, I would think with the amount of cameras.
Or they picked it up later.
I think, you know, there's cameras everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's part of the problem with someone. I don't think this guy was a professional. I think this guy... If I had to guess, some guy who got fucked over. Apparently that company is really bad on denying claims.
34% denial rate.
Normal is like 16. Yeah. So those guys.
I don't think anybody's going to be crying too hard over that guy.
Maybe it's family, but that's about it. It's a dirty, dirty business. The business of insurance is fucking gross. It's gross. And especially health care insurance. Just fucking gross.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the origins of Video Archives?
0:03–14:49
2
How do Roger and Quentin connect over film discussions?
14:49–32:56
3
What lessons did they learn from working in video stores?
32:56–52:28
4
What makes writing by hand special for screenwriters?
52:28–1:09:38
5
How did Roger's experience in jail influence his writing?
1:09:38–1:27:45
6
What insights do they share about their filmmaking journey?
1:27:45–1:46:27
7
How do they view the current state of the film industry?
1:46:27–2:02:16
8
What are their thoughts on censorship and creative freedom?
2:02:16–3:18:17