#2279 - Ky Dickens
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Who is Ky Dickens and what are The Telepathy Tapes?
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Very nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. I really loved your series, the telepathy tapes. I had long suspected that there was some sort of a way to prove that there's something going on. There's no way that that would be a thing for so long that people would talk about telepathy certain moments where people could read people's minds or certain moments where there was something that was being exchanged that wasn't verbal, it wasn't facial expressions, it wasn't body language, there was something going on. And the telepathy tapes, excuse me, the telepathy tapes, essentially proved it. But what has been, has there been pushback about this? I know there's a lot of hardcore skeptics that never want to believe.
Yeah. I think anytime you're pushing the status quo, there's going to be pushback, of course, you know, but I think the overwhelming amount of emails that we've gotten from families and others that have a non-speaking child have been, you know, so excited that this news is finally out there. Same thing with teachers that have been witnessing, like you said, for witnessing this in classrooms and in their homes for decades, you know, and When facilitated communication first came to America, it was the 90s. What does that mean, facilitated communication? Okay. Maybe we should back up.
Okay.
Sure, sure, sure. I mean, so I wonder, okay, so what the podcast is about are non-speaking individuals who tend to have apraxia, which is a mind-body disconnect. Okay. And those individuals cannot speak with, you know, using their voice. Speaking is a fine motor skill, whereas pointing to letters is a gross motor skill. So spelling to communicate is how many of these individuals communicate, right? And when the first... Well, and with that in mind, I just want to say one quick thing, that often people historically have looked at people with apraxia or non-speakers, and they think that because they can't speak, they can't think, that they're not in there. They don't presume competence. And none of that is true.
These individuals have a hard time controlling their body, right? And so if you can't control your body, people make all sorts of assumptions, you know, and that's been really difficult. Yeah. And so I think that the subjects in this project who are non-speakers with autism have been up against all sorts of different battles, from people not presuming they're competent, from people doubting their way of communication through spelling to communicate. And then, of course, it comes out in many cases that these individuals are can read minds, have a plethora of other, for lack of better words, spiritual gifts. And then the parents and teachers often aren't believed about that either. So it's like there's stigma every which way. And the podcast is kind of a collision of all these stigmas and really trying to break down those stigmas and be like, here's the truth. These people are in there.
What are the claims about telepathy and non-speakers?
Spelling is a valid form of communication. And yes, many of them say they have spiritual gifts, which I think we can pretty much validate at this point.
When you say spiritual gifts, what do you mean by that?
Yeah, so when I first stumbled into this, which we can talk about later if you want, when I first kind of stumbled into this, I thought this was just about telepathy, right? And that there were these individuals and their parents and teachers were claiming they could read minds. And as I start meeting more and more and more of these families, and again, like I said, teachers, it's not limited to just families, one thing that they started telling me was telepathy is the tip of the iceberg. And I didn't know what that meant. You know, what do you mean? And it's true because I think whether or not it's ability to see disease or illness in someone and be able to diagnose it before this person knows that there's something wrong, reading an aura and, you know, saying that they can see a color around not just animals and humans, but plants.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
Who is Ky Dickens and what are The Telepathy Tapes?
0:03–3:12
2
What are the claims about telepathy and non-speakers?
3:12–16:20
3
How do non-speaking individuals communicate?
16:20–39:11
4
Can non-speakers possess spiritual or extraordinary abilities?
39:11–1:27:59
5
What are the scientific and societal challenges to accepting telepathy?
1:27:59–2:24:48
6
How did Ky Dickens start exploring telepathy?
2:24:48–2:32:55