#2421 - Derek, More Plates More Dates
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the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day about your new drink look at this here red gummy fish i'm about to try it for the first time and this is a nootropic yeah so it's uh i think on the first episode maybe that i did with you robust eh that's good yeah that's delicious i mean robust you're saying it like potentially oh both flavor and uh i think it's great all right red gummy fish that's fucking delicious i drank the shit out of this oh a lot of stuff in here what's in here So I think it was the first time I was on, you asked me about Gorilla Mind and the nootropic formula that I used before podcasts to get cognitively dialed. And at the time, it was a capsule-based formula.
And it still is. It still exists. But taking what we could to suspend in a liquid format and getting it into something that's more like publicly and widely accepted that they would want to drink on a regular basis and is something you could use daily. It's kind of what we did in this. So we included... Essentially, like a daily use version of the Gorilla Mind formula, which includes the tyrosine precursor for dopamine, as well as other neurotransmitters, catecholamines like adrenaline or adrenaline. Also, alpha-GPC, most bioavailable form of choline, it crosses the blood-brain barrier and is pretty efficacious and also just a good choline source in general, which most people are deficient in as a nutrient and I think completely unaware that it's actually important to be supplementing with potentially.
Pretty hard to get an adequate amount of choline. What does it come from in food? Liver is a good source, eggs. And in general, it's just like the highly nutrition dense foods that you would get it from. A lot of people aren't focusing on specifically either because of caloric density or it's like an animal based like nose to tail thing or whatever. Fill in the blank. It's not impossible to do it. A lot of people who focus on it could probably relatively easily, but it's still one of the things you have to focus on actually kind of like maneuvering into your diet typically. So in general, most people are at least maybe like 50% of the way that are at best, and that's even among people who I would say are relatively balanced diet individuals.
Interesting.
So I'm sure you're familiar with cholinergics and their impact on cognition and whatnot. Caffeine, tried and true. How much you got in here? 200 milligrams. Nice. Very difficult decision trying to come up with what is the amount you're going to stick with in perpetuity in this thing. Everyone's addicted now. It's a real issue with caffeine. So it's like the fine line balance of not too much, something that is still tolerable, sustainable, going to be widely accepted and widely impactful on a beneficial level but not overdoing it. And 200 is kind of what we landed on. And then uridine monophosphate, pretty unique ingredient. I haven't seen anybody ever include it in a drink, let alone even in supplements typically.
What is it? So it's also something that operates via the cholinergic system, but in a different way. Utility is kind of enhancing your sensitivity to stimulants. So somebody who is otherwise desensitized from like... Heightened exposure to things that either desensitize them to caffeine or nicotine or things of this nature, even something like the ADHD medications. This can actually, at least the literature suggests strongly, that it enhances dopamine neurotransmission potential, so like almost restoring function in damaged cells. uh dopamine producing neurons in the brain so you can kind of get a heightened impact out of the same level of stimulant so a caffeine dose that might otherwise be you're used to it now you start to feel it again more than you used to without having to increase your caffeine intake yeah so it's a pretty cool ingredient and it seems to have some neuroprotective properties potentially as well
And some interesting literature on like Alzheimer's and whatnot, but it's more like fringe and to be determined how impactful it is.
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