Joe sits down with Israel Adesanya, a mixed martial artist competing in the Middleweight division of the UFC. He is the subject of the documentary "Stylebender," available now. www.ahifilms.nz/films/stylebender www.ufc.com/athlete/israel-adesanya Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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What's up? What's up? What's up? Good to see you, my friend. What is the chain? What does that stand for?
Engage. This is my fightwear brand. Ashbel Castro started this. Oh. He was one of the... I'll say this. He was one of the only guys who fucked with me before I really blew up. So when I was fighting in China and I lost to Alex, they stopped giving me fights. And I had, I think at the time, I was the highest paid foreign fighter in China at the time.
Probably not now anymore, but then they stopped giving me fights. And I was like, look, I have seven more fights on my contract. Can I at least just get three? I just need three because money was running out, you know, the money I had saved up. And then, yeah, I was down to my last one day, like $500. And Eugene was holding pads for me. You could see something was up.
Chapter 2: How does Israel Adesanya's fightwear brand Engage come into the conversation?
And I just said, bro, I'm about to be broke, this and that, right, right, right. And he said, don't worry. Just leave it with me. I get home. I think I was on the toilet. And he just goes, check your bank account. And I'm sitting there just like, start crying. And I call him. He's like, no, don't thank me. Thank Ash, who started Engage. And I call Ash. I'm taking a shit.
Chapter 3: What challenges did Adesanya face during his early career?
Thank you so much. Like, honestly, just intense. Because, you know, I mean, I've been there, like, nothing and had everything and nothing again. So for me, yeah, he's always been a guy that's been in my corner. And me and Alex Volkanovski now, we've helped raise the brand so we own part of the company. So yeah, I like to rep the set. Oh, that's cool.
Nice.
And I think Engage also was... Last final three, when they had the whole Reebok fiasco, it was Venom, Engage, and someone else. I can't remember who else. So we didn't get the gig, but it would have been nice, though.
Oh, the UFC gig? Yeah.
Engage fight kits for the fighters.
But now it's Venom fight kits. Yeah, the whole fight kit thing is weird. I really preferred it when fighters could have sponsors. Condom depo on the back of your shorts. I don't like that.
I mean, they should probably have some discretion. I did like it, though. And I do like the fact now, like, the last fight I had... Hunter hit me up way before any gold gloves or anything, says, Izzy, we're gonna do this for certain fighters. What design would you like on your shorts? And I was like, bet.
And I hit up Curtis, who works with Engage, does a lot of the designs, and I taught him what I wanted, and then he just did some custom stuff, and I sent a few to Hunter, and then boom, I got my shorts, the Lightning. And I quite like that. I like expression. That's one thing I do miss about boxing or kickboxing is the expression on the Hong Kong bands, the shorts.
Like Jonathan Haggerty, he has cool shorts with golden bows on the side. I like that. It's cool.
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Chapter 4: How does Adesanya feel about the current state of MMA sponsorships?
But again, that's what you have to do. Look, when you get in the UFC, this is what I did as well. He did it the right way. Fight as much as possible. Fight as much as possible so you can be in people's faces so they can see. That guy just fought. That guy just fought. Oh, I just saw him fight last month.
And you fight as much as you can, and you get that momentum behind you, and then you become champion. You're that guy. And then again, you're just that momentum constantly. You're in people's faces. You're getting posted here, here, and that's how you build a stock up. So I've done that, and he's doing it the right way as well. And I think if he keeps going...
I hope he retires never getting defeated by anyone ever again. Just you.
And the way you did it, too. Oh, my God. That was one of the greatest celebrations of all time.
Look, it's the story behind it. No matter what, it's just the history. Because David even mentioned to me, my brother said, you know you're the only one that can actually stand with that guy. No one's lasted more than two rounds or even a round with him. And I thought about it during the breakdown, like, yeah, you're right. And it's because I knew him. I have fought that guy so many times.
And regardless of what happened, I lost three times and I finally won one. It was just the fact that I knew I could beat him. Every time I fought him, I was just like, I was beating him.
I thought you won the first one.
I felt so too. But then that's, you know, the Chinese judges. That's the kickboxing fight. They gave it to him. And then the second fight in Brazil under the same company, then he gets me. But again, I was besting him. Had him on skates. He was fucking... And then he... Bro, his spirit. You know what Jerry said about the whole juju thing? Like, that's real. That's real.
So the last time I fought him in Miami, look, he beats me. That's why I hate when people say, oh, is he scared? He's scared. It's like, bro, I ain't scared of shit. The guy beat me in the biggest... arena on the planet, Madison Square Garden, same way as the last time he beat me in Brazil, in his hometown.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of vaccine mandates discussed?
I played the game because it's all a game. I got offered different ways to play the game. But I was like, I'll find my own way. And I did. So, yeah, stay pure, which is good.
Yeah. This whole thing was just money. It was just they were trying to convince everybody they needed a vaccine because they wanted to make enormous amounts of money and they pulled it off.
And then now, with all the information that's coming out, all the deaths. I saw that show, Die Suddenly or whatever.
Yes.
And you see the blood clots from the same time that the vaccine got pushed. Excuse me. And then everyone just goes, oh, well, carry on with my death. It's like, again, I'm frustrated in a sense, but I don't say it because I'm like, we fucking told you. Yes. But then... I don't need an apology. No one needs an apology. But it's kind of like everyone just, oh, well, I guess that's that.
And then carry on with their fucking life.
I was talking to a dude last night who's a veteran who was telling me that the hospital where these veterans get treated, they literally told him we are not allowed to make a connection with any of these adverse side effects to the vaccine. even ones that are listed as vaccine side effects, they're not allowed to make that connection because they mandated the vaccine.
Yeah.
And this is the real problem. The reason why all these corporations and all these people don't want to talk about it is because they mandated their employees to get vaccinated. Yeah.
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Chapter 6: How does Israel Adesanya perceive the pressure of fame?
Yeah, most people.
So many times they say, I regret getting it. But I had to because if not, my job was going to fire me. Then I had to. And the fucking gaslighting thing, our former fucking prime minister, she did. I don't believe we coerced anyone into getting it. I don't.
Yeah.
And you just, I'm like, bitch, you literally said if you can't, if you don't get this, you can't go grocery shopping. Can't go to restaurants. You can't do that. Can't work. So your livelihood gone. But then we didn't, I don't think we forced anyone. We didn't force your hand. Like when people do, that's the ultimate form of gaslighting. You're just like. In our face.
The pressure was incredible. The pressure was incredible. And, you know, I felt it in the weirdest way because I saw people lying about me on CNN. I was like, this is crazy.
Or the horse tranquilizer thing.
Yeah, it was horse dewormer. They changed the color of my face. They made me look yellow and sick on television.
I'm like if you do that to me and by the way no one gave a fuck that I got better real quick that was the craziest part about it isn't this supposed to be about recovering from a disease here you got a guy who's recovered in three days and is telling you all the shit he took and you're lying
They still try to superimpose that sepia kind of filter over you. The one that got me, because we still travel during 2020, I did four of those MIQ quarantines. The one where you go back to your own country and then you have to quarantine in a hotel for two weeks before you get let back into society. My coach usually did nine, a lot of those. He even told me Israel, that last one.
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Chapter 7: What lessons does Israel Adesanya share about handling public interactions?
This isn't about Looking after people it's about punishing this guy for disobeying the law because he didn't have it So we're all someone's having a seizure hold up miss Let me go put on this fucking overall and take my gloves on race while this kid's dying exactly And they put him they punished him for that so that let me know like okay. This is fuckery. This is a foot I
Well, I remember when Dan Hooker had fought over here and then there was a picture of him being on the side of a fence looking at his daughter. It was heartbreaking.
He couldn't see his daughter for like two weeks. Eugene had the same thing. He had a newborn at the time. So I have a picture of him with his wife and his son on the other side as well. And then you're just separating families, all that kind of stuff. Look. I like my alone time. I love I might seem like a social butterfly and I am. I can do both. But I love my alone time and I like being inside.
But when you have too much alone time, that's bad. I didn't like that because then you start to go in your head with all these other things. I mean, I didn't go crazy, but I was dancing on the edge.
Well, that was a lot of things. I enjoyed it. People on Twitter lost their fucking mind because they were on Twitter all day long, locked in their house during quarantine for months and months at a time, just literally getting mentally ill, just reading Twitter and attacking people and then blaming all these people that are unvaccinated on all the problems of the world.
They just put us against each other. Yeah. Constantly. I just hope people don't do that again. I hope people realize like, hey, that was no one benefited from that. No one got better. No, it didn't help anybody survive. It was all bullshit. I hope there's another lockdown.
But just for like a month, I think, OK, look, every year, at least for two weeks or even some places, maybe a month. Just shut everything down. Everyone go. It was good. But you get to spend time with your family or the people you live with and realize, do I fuck with these people?
or do i not and they also built like build relationships and relationships things like that the whole world got better the fucking ocean got cleaner so i think it's good lockdown was good for that when it was okay but not for extended periods like six months or whatever that was terrible for the economy even a lockdown for a month is terrible for the economy it takes a long time to recover oh sure when everything seizes and you're not getting any packages and like right now there's a
Teamsters and longshoremen strike in America, which means all the docks all the No one's moving nothing everything all the Amazon just for two No, no, no, no, no, no, no eventually that's all gonna lock down Eventually there's gonna be nothing if these guys keep going it's gonna cripple the economy right now it's only been a couple of days but the the head of the Longshoremen's Union was talking about what effect it's gonna have and he basically say I why they're doing it because they want more money and
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Chapter 8: What future plans does Israel Adesanya have after fighting?
Okay. They feel like they have a more valuable position than they're being compensated for, and this is the best way they can negotiate. You guys need to understand how valuable we are to your society. You take us for granted. You don't want to give us what's fair, and so we're going to fuck you.
Sure.
And they haven't had a lockdown like that since 1977. 50 years, apparently. Yeah.
Damn. It's a real one.
It's a real one. It's a scary one, too, because they have an immense power and they haven't flexed it before and they're flexing it now. And they're flexing it like right before an election, which is who knows what kind of effect that's going to have. Because if the economy tanks because of that and they can blame Biden and Kamala Harris, you know, it could it could get crazy.
Yeah. We'll see. When did that start? Like a week ago, two weeks ago?
A couple days ago.
Oh, really?
I think it was October 1st.
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