529. How Trump Will Save the School System | Corey DeAngelis

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What are the monopolies affecting public education?

Jordan Peterson 0:00
So there's a geographic monopoly and there's a state mandated monopoly because you have to send your kids to school.
Corey DeAngelis 0:06
And then there's a teacher certification monopoly. And that trickles down from the university level into the K through 12 system.
Jordan Peterson 0:13
The findings were less pregnancy, less crime and higher probability of graduating.
Corey DeAngelis 0:17
I'd also say on the teenage pregnancy thing, we found a reduction in crime, but also a 38% reduction in paternity disputes, which could be caused by out-of-wedlock births or teenage pregnancies. Another separate study in New York City was a charter school experiment. They found that winning a lottery to go to a charter school in New York City decreased the likelihood of crime for male students by 100%.
Jordan Peterson 0:40
Republicans don't have a hope in hell of ever winning the culture war if they allow faculties of education to maintain their hammerlock on teacher certification. Everything else, as far as I'm concerned, it's blowing in the wind.
Jordan Peterson 1:09
Thank you. Hello, everybody. I'm speaking today to Dr. Corey DeAngelis. He has a PhD in education policy, which under normal circumstances wouldn't necessarily be a good thing. But he graduated from the Department of Educational Reform at the University of Arkansas, and that's one of the rare schools, maybe the singular schools, that isn't terribly bloody Marxist in its fundamental orientation. With, you know, a smattering of incompetence thrown in there just for good measure. I've been following Dr. D'Angelo, Corey, on X for a good long time. He's one of these one-man wrecking balls, one-person wrecking balls, like Layla Micklewaite, who's fighting the good fight against Pornhub, and Robbie Starbuck, who's a complete bloody army guy.
Jordan Peterson 2:07
in relationship to calling corporations out for their foolishness of their DEI policies. And Corey's been distributing the word in relationship to school choice. And school choice is a matter that's bigger than you might think, even though it has become quite a hot political issue. Because the school system, the public school system, is a failure in many ways. It's extraordinarily expensive, it's expansive, and it does an absolutely dismal job of what it should be doing, which is educating children, at least teaching them to read, let's say, a bare minimal standard of literacy. And although it turns out to be quite effective as a propaganda machine, there's a variety of reasons that it's rotten to the core, but the fact that it's a monopoly is definitely one of them. And we delved into that topic in great detail.
Jordan Peterson 3:04
If you're a parent and you're concerned about your children's future, if you're concerned about your rights as a parent, if you want to have the option to find an educational institution of high quality so that you can give your children the start they need in life, and also to protect them against a substantial amount of ideological warping, then the issue of school choice should be something that's paramount in your attention, as it has become for

How does school choice impact student outcomes?

Jordan Peterson 3:31
for many people in the United States. In any case, we delved into the rationale for school choice from the free market and libertarian perspective, but also from the perspective of parents' rights. I suppose a cardinal question of our time is, well, just whose children are they? And I think the right answer to that question is, children should be watched over by those who have their best interests most firmly at heart, and that's inevitably going to be parents. And so it's in this service of children that parents have the right to determine the educational pathway that they can pursue. And even though parents might not be able to do that on their own, because educating children is a difficult job, they're certainly in the best position to make intelligent choices about the direction to take if those choices are available to them. And so Corey's been working very hard on making that possibility a reality for parents. And so that's what we talked about today.
Jordan Peterson 4:38
Well, Dr. DeAngelis, hey, I got to make sure I'm pronouncing that exactly right.

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