1111: Jay Dobyns | Undercover with the Hells Angels Part One
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Just visit jordanharbinger.com or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. My guest today joined the ATF, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. A lot of you haven't heard of that, I noticed. And he went undercover in the Hells Angels, the most notorious biker gang in the world. In this episode, we'll discuss what it takes to go undercover, especially in such a dangerous organized crime organization. We'll discover why it's so hard to dismantle an organization like the Hells Angels or any biker gang. We'll also learn about the customs and culture of the Hells Angels. They have a lot of rules. It's actually quite complicated and surprising. Of course, I also wanted to know how to build an undercover identity, stay safe while hanging out and partying and engaging in criminal activity with ultra-violent criminal bikers, and how you build a case against such a powerful crime organization as a cop, as an undercover officer trying to take down the Hells Angels. Here we go with Jay Dobbins. Do you know Ken Croke? I do.
Yeah, he was on here a couple years ago. That was a super interesting episode. A lot of people really liked it. Were you before or after or the same time as him?
Before. Before, okay. Before, yeah. My operation was before Kenny's.
Yeah. So in his book, he mentions other undercover operations. He's probably talking about yours, right? Because there's not tons of undercover biker gang. There's not, but there's some other operations of significance that he might be referencing. I see. Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure because he specifically didn't talk about them very much, probably for good reasons.
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