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The Little Things

What to wear when your wardrobe stops working

05 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What practical advice does Caitlin Taylor offer for finding personal style?

2.022 - 25.077 Francesca Budkin

hi i'm louise erie and this is season six of our new zealand hero podcast the little things and i'm francesca budkin good to have you with us in this podcast we talk to experts we found out all the little things that you need to know to improve different areas of your life we cut through the confusion and overload of information out there to help simplify life and today possibly we're going to simplify your wardrobe possibly wouldn't that be fabulous

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25.057 - 36.045 Francesca Budkin

Louise, a few weekends ago I rang you when you were in the midst of quite a big clean-out of your wardrobe. You're quite good at doing a bit of an audit, aren't you?

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36.481 - 56.202 Louise Erie

I am good at doing it, but I don't do it because I need the audit. There's probably something else at play. And at the moment, it's just like we've got a lot of projects going on in the house. Our en-suites have fallen apart. By the way, that was, as you might remember, it was last September that that happened. And what are we in? Going into winter and it's only just being sorted now.

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56.322 - 62.429 Louise Erie

So, you know, there are a few things that are making my own living space or, you know, not comfortable.

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62.529 - 62.749 Unknown

Yeah.

62.929 - 68.852 Louise Erie

So I was like, what can I do for myself? Control. Get rid of clutter and make things a bit easier.

Chapter 2: Why do wardrobes become overwhelming as we age?

69.733 - 89.6 Louise Erie

Because in the mornings, and it's not that I haven't got time to look through my wardrobe, it's more that things are inside out on racks. I don't know if that's a habit you have. I cannot believe when I do this audit how many things I put back in the wardrobe inside out. Well, no, I don't tend to do that.

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89.62 - 93.185 Francesca Budkin

Yeah, no, it's bad. Is it because you've worn it and then you just put it back?

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93.406 - 112.007 Louise Erie

I don't know what it is. Someone's coming into my room and putting them on. With dirty clothes that you wear a couple of times and then hang up again. No, because it's all under control and then suddenly it isn't. Pretty much that's how it works, right? So things are under control. I've got all my T-shirts and their colours in the thing. Oh my gosh, okay.

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112.027 - 115.431 Louise Erie

And then after a while, that just starts to be like, no, no, no, not that one.

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Chapter 3: How can understanding color improve your wardrobe choices?

115.451 - 136.739 Louise Erie

The one with the different neck. No, no, no, no. And then it all just gets messy. Yeah. And my wardrobe is similar. And also we had the change of seasons as well, which I'm not really one of those people that change the seasons. I just put a jumper under a summer dress and keep wearing it. It's what I tend to do, yeah. There are people who do that. No, I do that. Oh, you do? Yeah.

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136.879 - 140.544 Louise Erie

You rotate things seasonally. Oh, gosh, no. No, no, no.

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Chapter 4: What are 'best bits' and how do they influence our clothing choices?

140.604 - 145.007 Francesca Budkin

I thought you meant just wear the same clothes but just add layers. Yeah, no, we both do that. Yeah.

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145.348 - 147.571 Louise Erie

Some people rotate their entire wardrobe.

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147.772 - 159.25 Francesca Budkin

Oh, no. I couldn't get my head. And I think that's the thing. I'm just too lazy. It's just too big a job to go through it all and try and trim it down and work it all out. I just live in chaos and it's not really serving me well.

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159.23 - 170.372 Louise Erie

Well, I'd just like to say, of the two of us, I have literally nothing under my bed. Not one item of anything. Not on my side, not on my husband's side. What's your story, Francesca?

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173.277 - 175.782 Francesca Budkin

Might not quite be the same as that, but that's okay.

Chapter 5: How can we clear out clothes that no longer serve us?

175.862 - 179.65 Francesca Budkin

I pull everything out and vacuum under there occasionally.

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180.593 - 198.133 Francesca Budkin

I think for me also, over the last five years, my body shape's changed a lot. You know, perimenopause hits and things change. And I think I also just can't be – I can't be arsed trying to get my head around actually what fits anymore, what needs to go and what can stay. And, you know, there's quite a bit going on. There is a lot going on.

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198.193 - 224.286 Louise Erie

And my hair colour's changed in the last decade as well. I've gone from – I don't know how long I was grey, but I've gone from blonde to grey. And that does impact things. And I think our skin changes tone as well as we age. Would that be right? I'm not sure. But yeah, I just think there is a lot going on for us and we don't stop and go...

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Chapter 6: What strategies can help avoid impulse buys when shopping?

224.266 - 226.188 Louise Erie

maybe this just isn't for me anymore.

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226.789 - 242.329 Francesca Budkin

Maybe we could make that. Let's make this simpler. Let's find out ways to make this a little bit simpler. Today we are joined by personal stylist and style coach, Caitlin Taylor. Caitlin has 20 years experience in the fashion industry across both high-end fashion and chain stores.

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242.349 - 252.804 Francesca Budkin

Through her business, Chasing Kate, she helps everyday women work out their personal style, get their confidence back and feel good in the clothes they wear. Caitlin, Caitlin, welcome. So good to have you with us.

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252.925 - 261.704 Louise Erie

Thanks for having me, guys. Excited to be here. We're excited to have you. It's going to be a very interesting conversation, I suspect, and a bit of fun.

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261.944 - 262.125 Unknown

Yeah.

Chapter 7: How does a capsule wardrobe simplify getting dressed?

262.445 - 268.819 Francesca Budkin

You deal with a lot of women through your business. What are the main issues women face when it comes to styling and dressing themselves?

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268.799 - 287.356 Unknown

Oh, that could be a whole podcast in itself, couldn't it? The biggest thing I see is people getting a little bit stuck with their style. So they've probably been through some sort of life change. So they've come out the other end and gone, what am I doing? The clothes don't fit like they used to. They can't find the things in stores that they like anymore.

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287.697 - 300.497 Unknown

They don't know what suits their body anymore. Or they just, the complete opposite, they have a wardrobe full of clothes and they don't know what to do with them because they're overwhelmed. So overwhelm is a word that comes up so much from women at either end of the spectrum.

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300.517 - 304.864 Unknown

They're overwhelmed with choices out there, don't know what to do, or they're overwhelmed with what they've got in their own wardrobes for sure.

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305.224 - 314.398 Louise Erie

I'm definitely underwhelmed, my wardrobe at the moment. Do you think that it is important for people to have their own personal style or do you think that boxes us in too much?

314.378 - 315.24 Unknown

No, I really do.

Chapter 8: What are the common mistakes people make when shopping for clothes?

315.26 - 329.228 Unknown

But your personal style could be so eclectic that you wouldn't be able to put a name on it, but it's still your style. So I think it's such a cool way to express who you are without having to walk around with a resume on your head. So it gives you that freedom to be you, really.

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329.508 - 332.995 Francesca Budkin

That's interesting because before we did this podcast, I ended up on some –

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332.975 - 356.147 Unknown

ai thing and it was trying to get me to determine what my personal style was and it was trying to get me to describe it in three words oh i do do that oh you do i do but that's only one element of it right yeah so there's your words there's your colors there's your body shape there's your best bits so there's a whole kind of uh like your foundations your star foundation oh that makes sense i was trying to sum it all up in three words that

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356.127 - 377.802 Francesca Budkin

It's impossible. But I like the idea that you don't kind of feel like you have to be fully defined by just sort of one style. It can be eclectic. Did you get to three words? No. Well, no. All I came up with was... All I came up with was sneakers, dress, and cardigan because I like to keep things really simple. I like to wear as little as possible. Simple?

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378.002 - 382.848 Francesca Budkin

And some where I just put tights on and a cardi over the top, you know, of a dress.

382.988 - 393.6 Unknown

Yeah, but simple could be one of your words. Yeah. Comfy. Comfy. Lazy. Comfy for me is a given. So that shouldn't be a word because everyone should be comfy regardless of what they're wearing.

393.88 - 395.923 Francesca Budkin

Oh, that gives me a word back. Yeah. There we go.

395.943 - 398.768 Unknown

We've got two more to go. By the end of the podcast, we'll have the word sorted.

398.808 - 405.822 Francesca Budkin

We will have those words. Do we all have a bit of style, even if we don't know it? If you're sort of thinking, oh, I don't really have any personal style, maybe we do.

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