Steven Rinella talks with former Green Bay Packers linebacker and Super Bowl winner Clay Matthews, Ryan Callaghan, Max Barta, Chester Floyd, Seth Morris, Randall Williams, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider. Topics discussed: Attending Packers games in blaze orange; when you lose a fight to an octopus; ever-bigger Super Bowl rings; why MeatEater's American History: The Long Hunters (1761-1775) has two narrators; lipstick on a pig; the beans before the frank; when a mountain lion attends your wedding; the Matthews Family football dynasty; what's the most hunting-est and fishing-est of the professional sports?; Clay's first duck hunt; recalling Trivia with Pete Alonso and the New York Mets; perfecting your celebratory move; Steve’s mom, the major Chicago Bears fan; listening to the play-by-play on the radio; “When the Packers were playing, you could hunt anywhere you wanted!”; freak accidents; Clay's perfectly line up chestnut trees; nerding out on biochar; getting ducks stuffed; the MeatEater crew argues about which fish Clay should stock in his pond; and more. Outro song: “Where ‘Dem Duckies At?” by Collin Peterson Connect with Steve and MeatEater Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YoutubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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