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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Governor Hochul Discusses Fighting Back Against Trump

29 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent events have caused Donald Trump to panic?

0.098 - 25.612 Ben Meiselas

That right there is the face of a beaten and defeated man. Just look at MAGA Mike Johnson being hit with the ultimate karma he deserves heading into the midterms. Or take a look at Donald Trump in fear, in panic, as his regime is in collapse. And we have different cabinet members and top officials pointing fingers at each other. Kristi Noem blaming Stephen Miller.

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25.632 - 47.537 Ben Meiselas

Stephen Miller blaming Kristi Noem. They're all leaking to corporate news and regime media. They're blaming the border patrol. It is utter chaos. And when Donald Trump's been giving speeches over the past 24 to 48 hours, he's really being hit by that instant karma. He's getting kind of fact-checked to his face. He had that disastrous appearance.

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in Iowa, where there was someone there at this like diner where he was trying to stage this affordability event. And as Daniel Dale says, in an unusual moment, Trump was fact checked by a woman in the crowd at his Iowa speech yesterday who was on scene. Donald Trump said, I've lowered gas to $1.95 or $1.85 in Iowa. The woman shouted, no, you didn't. Gas is $2.63. Stop lying.

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76.489 - 99.518 Ben Meiselas

It was $2.69 at the station right outside the venue, and the state averages $2.57. GasBuddy found just four stations out of 2,036 in the state were actually selling for under $2. He's just out there making things up, folks. One of the things to mention as well is that, so he did this speech in Iowa earlier in the week.

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Then he did the speech where he did like a speech with Nicki Minaj, the rapper, and then he handed her a gold card where she now gets to be like a citizen. She was undocumented, but then she professed her love to Donald Trump and MAGA, and she was given a gold card. And the whole thing was really weird. And Donald Trump was like, Nicki Minaj has these great long nails and look at her.

124.037 - 143.235 Ben Meiselas

I want nails like that. But one of the things I want to focus on right now is that as the American people are struggling, as the American people are suffering, psychologically tortured, living paycheck to paycheck, if they're lucky enough to even have a paycheck right now, they can't afford homes, can't afford groceries. But inflation's rising. It's not dropping. Let's be very clear about that.

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And then Donald Trump's attacking the idea of low income housing as though low income housing is some sort of disease or plague. And Donald Trump in the speech, he was attacking Governor Gavin Newsom of California and saying he was lying about like what Newsom's plans are. And Donald Trump's like, you can't ever put low-income housing in rich, wealthy areas that were burned down by the fires.

170.926 - 193.277 Ben Meiselas

You can't do that. And then Trump signed like a made-up executive order saying that the federal government is now taking over disaster relief in Los Angeles based on the fires from last January. And it's like, just give the disaster relief money, basically the $40 billion that's needed to rebuild these communities that the Trump regime is withholding.

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But instead of actually giving them money, Donald Trump is bashing the idea of low income housing in general, like low income housing, some horrible thing, even though that's not even what the plan is in Los Angeles and doing fake executive orders saying that he's going to be taking over Los Angeles. and just give them money.

Chapter 2: How is Trump being fact-checked in public appearances?

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This is not good stuff. The economic data is horrible. Play this clip.

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255.844 - 272.374 Jerome Powell

The unemployment rate was 4.4% in December and has changed little in recent months. Job gains have remained low. Total non-farm payrolls declined at an average pace of 22,000 per month over the last three months, excluding government employment.

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272.695 - 293.406 Ben Meiselas

And as the economic data is horrible, as people's pocketbooks are being hit hard, as 96% of the tariffs were passed through to the consumers who had to eat it, the consumers, it is a tax on the consumer, on Americans. The corporation in America pays the tariff and it's passed on. But setting that aside, federal spending is through the roof.

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293.386 - 318.972 Ben Meiselas

I know that is, I guess it's only when Democratic presidents exist where people start talking about, oh, the deficit is up and all of the debt. I mean, the way Trump is running up this deficit and the MAGA Republicans, it is awful. A new CBO analysis reveals that the Trump regime spent about $496 million last year to deploy the National Guard to six cities. It's about $100 million a month.

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That's our taxpayer dollars going to torture people using Trump's military forces when he tries to use the National Guard. Take a look right here, though. This was when Donald Trump was at that diner that I mentioned earlier. It's in Iowa. And Donald Trump's, like, mocking the people there and mocking the Americans, bragging about... making your life savings into a yo-yo.

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Trump's like, I can make the economy do a yo-yo if I want it. I'll make it do a yo-yo. Here, play this clip.

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Would you like to see the dollar's value decline more?

354.124 - 377.612 Donald Trump

No, no, I'd want it to be just seek its own level. which is the fair thing to do. I could have it go up or go down like a yo-yo. I'll give you an example. Unemployment. I could create the greatest unemployment numbers or employment numbers ever. All I have to do is hire 3 million people and put them into the federal government, and you have 10 people, you know, for one job, right? That's right.

377.778 - 404.005 Ben Meiselas

Going back to MAGA Mike Johnson, MAGA Mike Johnson has not condemned the attack on Ilhan Omar by that deranged, demented individual who sprayed things on her with a syringe. No statements about MAGA Mike on that. No statements about the murder by the Trump Gestapo of Alex Preti. MAGA Mike didn't do that. But MAGA Mike did have time to hug Nicki Minaj and talk about her coat and her nails.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Trump's economic claims?

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The director, that's Brett Ratner.

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How did that go? He hasn't been involved in movies in a couple of years. How was that relationship? Very good. He was very talented. I know that. And box offices could tell you, right, that he was very talented. And we had other suggestions and looking into it. And he was the one that he...

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i said you know the most important is that he puts out my idea what i have and cinematic film that i want to achieve so he was the best one and he was great to work with let's bring in new york governor kathy hokal governor hokal great to see you you've

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645.162 - 666.073 Ben Meiselas

repeatedly called for the end of donald trump and his regime's occupation of minnesota and cities and towns across this country and you use that term that this is an occupation that essentially it's an invasion of our cities and towns get out now and just shuffling the deck and

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removing bovino as bad as he is and bringing in tom home and that's not what the people want right i mean they just want get ice and border patrol back to what you just get him out of there talk to us about that yeah put ice where it was

681.207 - 706.869 Kathy Hochul

January 19th, 2025. Can we go in the way back machine to prior to Donald Trump's militarization of this force that's supposed to protect our borders from transnational criminals and terrorists and work with the border patrol to keep our streets safe? they've totally lost their way. They've lost the original mission, which is to protect our communities.

707.49 - 727.925 Kathy Hochul

And their definition of criminals is someone who left their home country under dire circumstances like my own grandparents did. They left great poverty. They were told they had to leave because they would starve. They came here, became migrant farm workers and worked at factories. But that's, so people who just come here in search of that life, they're treated as if they're criminals.

728.426 - 744.458 Kathy Hochul

And that's just wrong. And what is happening in my friend Tim Walz's state and in the cities is abhorrent on every level. It is un-American. And as I'm continuing to watch again, Ken Burns' American Revolution, and I think about those

744.438 - 764.809 Kathy Hochul

Ragtag groups of individuals who banded together as patriots and stood up to this abuse of power and put us on a track to have a democracy that is held strong for 250 years and is becoming unraveled before our eyes. So we must be the ones who stand up to this and call it out and use all the powers at our lever to fight back.

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