Full Show Podcast: 07 July 2026
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
the newsmakers and the personalities. The big names talk to Mike. The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Defender Trophy. Epic adventure, greater purpose. News Talk ZV. Morning and welcome today, China and the missile. Can New Zealand get on board with this Microsoft AI Channel 9 deal? India free trade deal already paying dividends for the Apple grows. Hannah Waddingham, Octavia Spencer. They've got a new show coming, Ride or Die.
Should we be worried about China's missile tests in the South Pacific?
They're with us after 8 from London. Catherine Field, Inder Brady bring the world to our place as well. Here's the Morning 7 past 6 to tell you what is the world. Question for you, is the world evolving faster than we can cope with? So Katoomba, which is in rural New South Wales, they're not happy. They're having a data centre debate. Not long ago, data centres were a thing and they were a thing that we all wanted. Now, apparently, we don't. There is already a mountain of coverage to be read, if you want to, from communities all over the world who have dipped their toes into data centres and regretted it. Katoomba...
What is the significance of New Zealand's nuclear-free policy?
to a degree being dictated to by the state government. Their one isn't that big, but they want to stick it right in the middle of suburbia, about a block from the school and right by the park. They may or may not get a say as to where it ends up. The local mayor calls it a pile of crap. The data centre issue has been largely avoided here so far, of course. According to my AI-generated investigation, we have about 56 in operation in this country. Another 20 are coming. Auckland has most. Wellington have some. The rest, which is hardly any, are scattered around the remainder of the country. Now, the trouble is several fold. All the troubles are well worth considering. One, water. They use a shed load of it.
That may or may not be an actual issue, depending on where you put one, of course. Two, power. This is a major. Evidence now shows your local power price rises disproportionately. So much so, in fact, in parts of the state now, the big tech companies simply... cover the total cost to set up the generation the lot three jobs not a lot of them may have a few in the build but after that nothing much Katoomba didn't really see the five jobs that they get as much of an employment boom but four the big one seems to be the noise the hum you can't escape it there is no escape it apparently does your head and it never stops and because of that if you're close to one guess what no one wants to buy your house or any house anywhere near you
How is Invest NZ attracting $30 billion for data centres?
Data centres are needed for AI. AI is going to change the world. All good. Until it isn't. Until it ends up in your backyard. And guess what they're saying in Katoomba? That age-old line we use to object to everything. Not against them. It's just our neighbourhood isn't the right place. You see, the world changes, but some things never do. News of the world in 90 seconds. New politics, tricky nature, front and centre this morning. So we got the Chinese in the Pacific with their missiles, more on that later. The Russians had a plane over the Norwegian Sea overnight that required the Brits to send out a bit of a deterrent.
Let me commend the British military for the actions they took. That's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians, willing to do this so close to the ship.
Not done with that. The Foreign Secretary sanctioned a few more Russians from that Novichok business that started back in 2018.
We've seen that with the lethal toxin used to kill Alexei Navalny, that the UK was involved in identifying.
What are the potential impacts of data centres on local communities?
But we've also seen it in Salisbury. We've seen it on the streets of London. We've seen these weapons used here in the UK.
Also in the UK, the media landscape getting a major overhaul. The Sky buys ITV.
Lots of people think all we ever do is log on and just go onto a streaming platform and do on-demand stuff. But no, this shows the sort of future here. So Sky will become a much, much bigger player.
Yes, then we have the football, the joy for England and the memories for the bloke who once coached a young Harry Kane.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:23
2
Should we be worried about China's missile tests in the South Pacific?
0:23–0:53
3
What is the significance of New Zealand's nuclear-free policy?
0:53–2:08
4
How is Invest NZ attracting $30 billion for data centres?
2:08–3:12
5
What are the potential impacts of data centres on local communities?
3:12–7:31
6
How is AI influencing the future of data centres?
7:31–8:57
7
What challenges are associated with the rise of data centres?
8:57–13:49
8
What can we expect from the new show 'Ride or Die'?
13:49–1:29:47
Speakers
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