Full Show Podcast: 12 August 2026

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What is driving the current leadership speculation within New Zealand’s National Party?

Newstalk ZB 0:00
Tough on power, sharp on insight. The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate. 100% Kiwi owned and operated News Talks ZB. Morning
Mike Hosking 0:09
and welcome today. The Doofuses and the National Party are specialised in self-interest. Good news, we are opening up a shedload of new businesses. Unfortunately, interest rates continue to rise, so we'll talk to the banks about that. Mark and Ginny on You Know What. We're at Chad Arnold Steve Price in from the Overseas. Welcome to the day, seven past six. If this was another time, right? Like when the Labour Party was more normal and centrist under a Longy or a Clark. If this was a time when the political debate was you know, you really couldn't tell the difference between national and Labour, and that was the debate for a sustained period of time. Both had moved to grab the centre, the centre is what won or lost elections.
Mike Hosking 0:44
If if these were those times, I probably would have given up on national by now because honestly, as we head to another of these time wasting meetings again this morning, it is a rare day. You see a group of such self-centered people try so hard to cock up their race. The numbers show most likely the government will win on November 7. What is causing the navel gazing is some of the Nats will be losing their jobs because the tide in 23 came in, but like all tides in 26 a chunk of it will go out, and clearly there's nothing like self-interest to drive a bit of blame and finger pointing. I vote where I want to see this country head, right? Not on party leaders, certainly not on leaders. Of major parties.
Mike Hosking 1:19
Small parties, maybe, because they're way more reliant on them. I mean, what does ACT look like without Seymour? What does New Zealand first look like without Peters? I mean the answer to both those questions, by the way, should be a worry for us and them. But National, whether led by Luxin, Bishop, Willis, Stanford, or Mitchell, does not materially change between now and November seven, which is why this is such a gargantuan balls up. This election is about the direction of the United States. The country. That debate does not change if Luxon survives or doesn't today. That debate does not change. Today is about introspection, self-absorption, and selfishness. Luxon, with his caucus, is doing the best thing he could.
Mike Hosking 1:57
He's between a rock and a hard place, simply trying to once again shut the whiners up. He is right. The country deserves a lot better than this. If National with 22%, If every poll had the government losing in badly, sure, desperate times. But it doesn't. Not even close. So it is the handful of go nowheres that have put themselves once again ahead of everything else. I named them last time. Luxon should name them this time. He should call them out and shame them, no matter who they are. Pink is the top of that list. This disrespects the party, the coalition, the public, and the process. It is a mess that doesn't. It does not need to be.
Newstalk ZB 2:36
What? News
Unknown 2:38
of the world in 90 seconds.
Mike Hosking 2:40
It is slow and painful work in Colombia.
Unknown 2:42
They've paused and we've seen this kind of on and off in the past little bit where where they've held off and moved away from a certain spot and then tried to direct resources to that location.
Mike Hosking 2:54
In Britain Andy's back from holiday, rolling round the country on his cost of living tour, but he's in some trouble with these prisons. They're full to overflowing, which means some get let out early. The the who is the sticky bit.
Unknown 3:04
The uh proposal will be to find new ways of freeing up space within the prison system so that we do not have to release offenders early and particularly the most serious offenders like those involved in the killing of PC Andrew Harper. Indeed the police like to hear that sort of talk. Officers under the country every single day run into danger when everybody else runs away from it. They put their lives on the line. And they swear an oath to the to the king and and to the badge of each force that they represent. And some pay the ultimate sacrifice for that.
Mike Hosking 3:37
But that's not all there is to the overcrowding debate.

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