Full Show Podcast: 16 September 2026
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What did the Tom Phillips inquiry reveal about police and government failures?
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Aveda Retirement Communities. Life your way. News Talk ZB. Morning and welcome today to Tom Phillips' Cock Up. We've got about 19,000 overstays. Is that actually a thing, Mark and Ginny? Politics Wednesday, of course, after 8. Chas Mostard of Supercars fame, he drops in. Richard Arnold, Steve Price, they're bound to be fun as well, I reckon. Welcome to the day, seven past six. Turns out fanciful and quite possibly nutty and dangerous thinking isn't limited to the Greens and the government-run supermarket. Dame Angela Eagle, Environment Secretary in the UK, has announced the need for people to take the burgeoning El Nino so seriously we need to start...
stockpiling food this is a conflation of several things that affect a lot of us these days all over the world new and developing weather patterns we haven't quite got a read on given we've never really dealt with them before a growing amount of generalized alarmism and of course very poor leadership through a chronic and growing lack of genuine talent el nino this summer or their winter may or may not be a thing we simply don't know Last report I read suggested New Zealand may well do quite well out of it, given prices for what we grow most likely will rise. In other words, it may flood in South America or dry out in Australia. We could well be fine. But sadly, the modern age has seen the astonishing rise of fear and alarmism.
How many years has the phrase before it's too late been used when it comes to climate change? Just last week, they rolled it out again as regards the 1.5 degrees they got fixated with a couple of decades ago. The point of no return, an Antonio Guterres go-to. While we know for sure our volcanoes are worse for the climate than we are and wars cause more crop damage than weather, but also asking people to stock up seems a new low. Stock up with what? Canned beetroot? And to what extent are you stocking up and for how long? And have you seen the size of your average British kitchen? And by panicking before anything actually happens, if and when nothing does happen, how's that going to go for your messaging and credibility if and when anything actually does happen and you actually need people to take you seriously?
Vaccines and our attitude towards them were materially changed because of COVID. It's why America has measles and internationally targets are now routinely missed with kids. Leadership and proportionality go hand in hand. Scare the horses, overreact, panic, get captured by ideology. They all lead to trouble. My approach to summer is going to be very similar to last year. If I lived my life reacting to the Environment Secretary, alarmists or the Herald's Harbour Bridge closure alerts, I'd be a nervous wreck and with no cupboard space left. And who needs that?
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The AI freakout rolls on into another day. Bernie's got no time for Trump's hoax theory.
What can you say about Trump? I think he is mentally unstable and I think he has not a clue about the dangers that advanced AI poses. One might think that you'd have a president of the United States who would listen to the leading experts in the world. But Trump is Trump.
Across the pond, the ponds, especially the unions, worry about the jobs as well. The government pile on lashings of reassurances.
AI will reshape our lives and the lives of our children. And we have a solemn duty to mitigate the risks and ensure that it is for the benefit, not the detriment of our society.
This bloke's also in the reassurance game, especially when it comes to the race with China.
The fact is they've had a high regulatory burden and they've done that while catching up with the United States. So I think that binary between You know, if we put any pressure on these companies, if we make any demands of them, it's game over and China is just going to rocket past us. I think that setup is just fundamentally flawed.
Then back in Britain, a couple of problems. One, the bloke who heads reform in Wales has
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What did the Tom Phillips inquiry reveal about police and government failures?
0:00–11:20
2
How does Deputy Police Commissioner Jill Rogers explain the missed opportunities in the Tom Phillips case?
11:20–22:36
3
What actions does Minister Louise Upston say will improve inter‑agency information sharing?
22:36–33:58
4
How are El Niño forecasts and dairy price trends affecting New Zealand farmers?
33:58–44:58
5
Why is Supercars champion Chaz Mostert excited about the Race of Champions coming to Wellington?
44:58–57:35
6
What are Mark Mitchell and Ginny Anderson saying about public meetings and campaign strategy?
57:35–1:06:07
7
How are AI hype, climate alarmism, and media panic influencing public debate?
1:06:07–1:18:28
8
What quick‑check tools and investment offers are being promoted at the end of the show?
1:18:28–1:30:04
Speakers
8 identifiedMore from The Mike Hosking Breakfast
Mike's Minute: AI isn't going to wipe us out
Pollies: National's Mark Mitchell and Labour's Ginny Andersen on the Tom Phillips inquiry, public meetings
Chaz Mostert: Supercars driver for Walkinshaw TWG Racing on the Race of Champions heading to Wellington
Campbell Parker: DairyNZ CEO on farmers being warned to prepare for higher tighter margins as El Niño threatens higher costs
Jill Rogers: Deputy Police Commissioner on the findings of the Tom Phillips inquiry, missed opportunities to recover the children
Steve Watson: Immigration NZ Compliance and Investigations General Manager on the over 19,000 people estimated to have overstayed their visas