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The Moonshot Podcast

Deep Dive: Catie Cuan on Dancing and Living With Robots

24 Jul 2025

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In the third installment of our Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive video interview series, X’s Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with Dr. Catie Cuan, robot choreographer and former artist in residence at Everyday Robots, for a conversation about how dance can be used to build beautiful and useful robots that people want to be around. Watch the video to hear how Catie and the Everyday Robots team transformed robotic motion into music, what it feels like when she’s dancing with a robot and why she’s “hyper-optimistic” about the future of robotics. For more, check out Catie on Episode 5 of The Moonshot Podcast, “Living With Robots”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUcB73KgEVs 00:00 - Introduction 00:29 - Catie’s mission to make robots more humanistic and whimsical 02:12 - How Catie came to X and Everyday Robots 03:40 - Using dance to make robots less “robotic” 07:38 - Teaching robots human social cues 11:00 - Transforming robotic motion into sound with “music mode” 15:16 - Programming robots to “flock” together like animals 18:31 - How young kids interact with robots 20:15 - Catie’s own experience interacting with her robots 22:18 - Working with experts outside the field 24:36 - Designing robots to not look like “robots” 28:44 - Helping humanity face their visceral fear of robots 32:40 - The moonshot and legacy of Everyday Robots 35:42 - Catie’s advice for moonshot-takers 37:27 - Catie’s vision for what the future looks like Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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