Looming Suspicions in Guthrie Search, the DARK Psychology of the Reiner Case, & Origins of Parricide

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What are the initial details of the Reiner case and its implications?

Maureen Callahan 0:02
Hello, and welcome to your Tuesday edition of The Nerve. I am your host, Maureen Callahan. And today, a Nerve favorite, a real provocateur, Professor Sam Vaknin is with us. Now, we spoke to him earlier in January, but we decided... to hold this interview um there was a a nick reiner arraignment date that got pushed back and so we thought this might do better there but then the savannah guthrie case exploded and as we know based on ashley banfield's impeccable reporting and she's been on the nerve to discuss it um law enforcement has been looking at savannah guthrie's brother-in-law and potentially sister as prime suspects in the disappearance of their mother, 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie. If this turns out to be the case, we are looking at yet another very high profile case of intimate family violence.
Maureen Callahan 1:10
It was what made the OJ case so shocking. It seems as though it's like a complete rarity, like an outlier of a crime. And as we began speaking with Sam, you know, I, I, I, I preface this with him by talking about how it's, it's always been a motif in literature, in drama. I mean, you go back to the ancient Greeks, you know, the, the second characters who show up in the old Testament, Cain and Abel. So it's been with us, it seems, since the birth of humanity. So Sam is joining us to talk about this. And again, you think a conversation with Sam is going to go one way, and he brings you along to the most fascinating back roads intellectually, philosophically, spiritually, morally. So we think you're going to really enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
Maureen Callahan 2:21
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How does parricide manifest in family dynamics?

Maureen Callahan 3:27
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Maureen Callahan 4:25
And this story opens up a dark but fascinating topic, one as old as mankind itself is. The phenomenon of parricide, that being the murder of one or both parents by their own child. And who better to help us understand this darkest of human aberrations but the one and only Professor Sam Vaknin joining us now. Sam, welcome back to The Nerve.
Sam Vaknin 4:55
It's great to open the year with you. But I'm not sure what you've just said, whether I should take it as a compliment or a major insult.
Maureen Callahan 5:04
Oh, you know, it's so funny. We were talking to Nancy Grace not long ago, and she said the same thing. I said, who better to talk about the nuances of this trial with? And she was like, are you saying I have a dark heart? No such thing.
Unknown 5:16
No such thing.
Maureen Callahan 5:19
But Sam, you know, I've been thinking about this since the story broke, and

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