Ep. 125 How to Run Successful Social Groups
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What is the purpose of running social groups in a neuro‑affirming clinic?
Hello everyone! Hello! Welcome to the NeuroFirm Show. I am super excited for today's topic, which is we are talking about how to successfully run social groups. We have been running social groups in our clinic basically since its inception. We still do a lot of groups where I would say more so now what we do is we have one therapist and one child and then we might have another therapist, another child, even three together. So it's pretty So it's pretty common something that we're doing still often. But even in the past, there were times when we had groups of six who were consistently coming in every week and it was just so much fun. We've done groups anywhere from kids from two to I don't know, I would say around ten, but that's because the majority of the kids we see are about ten and under.
But it has just been something that it is so fulfilling. It is so much fun. And what's really interesting is now in the world of like what is neuroaffirming and what is not. And Do we teach these social skills? We know that in order to be neuroaffirming, we don't wanna teach, you know, neurotypical social skills and force autistic kids to use those neurotypical social skills. And it's it's interesting because I didn't even know any of that back when I started doing social groups, but I always did kind of what felt right. And I ended up there on my own. Before even realising why this was a problem. And I'll tell you how. I had two girls who I would see and they were in a group together for a long time. So they were I think one was seven and one was eight.
And what we would do is we are trying to work on conversation skills. You know, they were having trouble making friends at school, they were both autistic. And what they would do is they would come in and
How can overly structured conversation cues (e.g., popsicle‑stick prompts) hinder natural interaction?
For the session. And this is what most SLPs were trained to do. Okay. So before you judge me, this is what most therapists do, something similar to this. Which is I had two popsicle sticks and I had construction paper on each one and they were two different shapes. So one said question on it and then one said comment. And I would literally hold these up as these girls would be in conversation and say, oh, it looks like you made too many comments. Time to ask a question. Hold up the Pop School stick to remind them, like as a visual cue, to ask a question. Or one would ask one would talk and the other one wouldn't comment and I would hold up the popsicle stick to remind them that they needed to comment.
So it was super, super structured, but I genuinely thought this is how you build back and forth conversation because conversations are made up of people making comments and people asking questions and this is how conversations flow naturally. Those conversations did not flow naturally. We would pick a topic. I would like sometimes print topics and we would just pick one out of a bag and that would be the topic of conversation and then we would go back and forth. And they would come into my office, they would both sit on spinning chairs because that was all I had and it drove me crazy because they would be sitting on these spinning chairs and they would just be turning And half the time weren't looking at each other.
And I would just be constantly reminding them to have their body facing the person that they are talking to. And Again, these are things that we all did, right? So what happened was one day I was getting some materials and I stepped out of my office to gather some stuff and they started in the session in my room. And then I went into my room and I was on my computer looking up some materials or getting ready to print something and I noticed the strangest thing. They were Deep. in conversation. They were talking about anime, which was something they both loved. They were sharing stories of going to the mall over the weekend and talking about what they're buying and anime and they're spinning in the chairs and they're continuing the conversation while spinning.
And that was such a big aha moment for me.
Why does letting kids choose their own conversation topics (like anime) create deeper engagement?
I actually wrote an article for Asha on social groups, and I don't think I tell that story in it, but it was a big piece of um like what I was thinking about when I was writing it because
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the purpose of running social groups in a neuro‑affirming clinic?
0:02–1:56
2
How can overly structured conversation cues (e.g., popsicle‑stick prompts) hinder natural interaction?
1:56–4:16
3
Why does letting kids choose their own conversation topics (like anime) create deeper engagement?
4:16–6:29
4
How does reducing the therapist’s involvement make social groups more successful?
6:29–9:18
5
Why is individual observation and a trial session essential before adding a child to a group?
9:18–11:12
6
How can letting children decide the day’s activity foster social‑skill development?
11:12–13:49
7
What strategies encourage children to seek input from peers instead of the therapist?
13:49–15:51
8
How can role‑play activities like a pretend restaurant build real‑world social skills?
15:51–17:56
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