Another government shutdown looms -- what you need to know
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This is Micah. And Mark. We're playing hooky today and are currently snowshoeing through the backcountry in the Rocky Mountains. We're celebrating our 47th birthdays together and more than 41 years of friendship when we met the day before kindergarten.
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12.35 p.m. on Friday, January 30th.
Things might have changed by the time you hear this, but we'll hopefully be warming up by the fire. Enjoy the show.
That is just like the sweetest thing. Like a longtime friendship is amazing.
I would rather be snowshoeing with my best friend right now, but we might need snowshoes still in D.C. if they can sink into the ice.
I did see people snowshoeing in my neighborhood this weekend and it was I was jealous, I will say, as I slid around. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Tamara Keith. I cover the White House.
I'm Sam Greenglass. I cover Congress.
I'm Ximena Bustillo, and I cover immigration policy. And if there is a theme for this week, it might just be deja vu all over again. Congress and the president are once again staring down a government shutdown, partial this time. Sam, the country had its longest shutdown in history just a few months ago. That was largely over health care. How is this time different?
So the short answer is that this debate hinges on the tactics of federal immigration officers. What we're talking about now is about $1.3 trillion in spending that's on the line. That covers not all of the government, but a lot of it. And this was all on track to pass by tonight. But then a federal immigration officer killed a second Minneapolis resident, 37-year-old Alex Preddy. Democrats saw this as kind of their only chance to extract some changes to rein in immigration tactics. And what they've convinced Republicans to do here is separate funding for much of the government from money for the Department of Homeland Security, which is going to get extended for just about two weeks. But the House still needs to sign off on this change.
And so that is not going to happen in time to avert a shutdown, at least a short one.
And presumably during that two week period, they would be negotiating policy changes. Ximena, what are these changes the Democrats are trying to extract?
So there's kind of three buckets of asks that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has outlined. The first has to do with kind of how they're going out into communities and the ways that they're conducting arrests, particularly with warrants. So there's two types of warrants, administrative and judicial. Judicial have to be signed by a judge. Administrative are basically the agency giving itself permission to enter your home. And so Democrats want to get rid of that. They also want to change the way that the agency works with local law enforcement on investigations, particularly its own internal oversight. This is something that Democrats have raised concern about even before the latest two killings of two U.S.
citizens. You know, when does an immigration officer go on leave? How is that investigated? You know, there's kind of like not a lot of internal checks and balances, considering that a lot of the oversight bodies within DHS were completely gutted during the broader effort to reduce the size of the federal workforce overall. And so Democrats are interested in looking into that. And then the third thing is mandating clear identification, banning homemade masks on faces and mandating that officers wear body cameras.
Sam, as you said, these asks are not necessarily new, but is there a sense that Republicans are more willing to engage on some of this?
Yeah, a little bit. You know, after the second fatal shooting, you know, even some Republicans were expressing alarm about what was happening in Minnesota. And this was coming not just from your typical critics within the party, the people we hear from a lot on some of these issues. There were calls for investigations and hearings. You know, even Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said Democrats are probably right about needing some reforms here.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:49
2
What are the implications of the looming government shutdown?
4:49–7:25
3
How did recent events in Minneapolis affect congressional negotiations?
7:25–11:13
4
What specific changes are Democrats seeking in immigration policy?
11:13–19:23
5
Are Republicans more open to immigration reforms following recent shootings?
19:23–24:02
6
What potential outcomes could arise from the split in funding bills?
24:02–30:32