Trump pushes unsubstantiated claims of election fraud — again
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Donald Trump has been a candidate in U.S. elections for a decade. And for almost that entire time, he's argued elections are not fair, even the elections he's won. Last night from the White House, he addressed the nation, saying he had new evidence of a corrupt election system. But does he? It's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Ashley Lopez. I cover politics.
I'm Myles Parks. I cover voting.
And I'm Tamara Keith. I also cover politics. Our very tired group here who stayed up last night to watch this speech. And Miles, I mean, you and I have covered Trump's false claims of election fraud for a while. And the White House was billing this as a big speech. There was a lot of chatter in the voting world. What is he going to talk about? But as you reflect on the overall address, I mean, what was your main takeaway of what he actually said?
Just to be clear, I'm not tired.
What did President Trump claim in his primetime address about new evidence of election fraud?
Voter fraud claims get me amped up, Ashley. So I'm like ready to go right now, just to be very, very clear. But the big takeaways here is that we were ready for a bombshell. You know, if you think about the hype that was leading up to this speech, the things that Caroline Leavitt, for instance, the press secretary was saying. There was a tweet from Bernie Moreno, the Ohio Republican senator, who said this might be the biggest Oval Office address since the Cuban Missile Crisis. So we were ready for something real. And these documents started coming in. The president's speech came out. We watched it. And it is just not clear to us at NPR who have been combing through these documents what— what we are actually learning that is new about the 2020 election or about the election system more broadly, to be very clear, no one has ever said that the election system is perfect.
There's been widely reported, especially after the 2016 election, Russia's interference efforts in that election, that there are vulnerabilities in the election system. And much of these documents focused on those vulnerabilities and also on aspects of intelligence that indicated China had an interest in pushing different types of election results. But again, I think the biggest takeaway of all, there was no new evidence brought of a single fraudulent vote cast in the 2020 election. Obviously, there were a few fraudulent votes in that election, as there are in every election. But in this tranche of new documents and new evidence, nothing actually new came out indicating widespread fraud.
There were wide ranging things that he talked about. China gaining access to voter files, which actually are publicly available information, for instance. But he didn't connect those dots together. He didn't connect those dots back to actual fraud happening in the election. That, though, didn't stop him from using a broad brush to claim that the American election system is very deeply flawed.
Put together, these disclosures reveal an election system so broken and so vulnerable that no one can possibly defend it. It is not defensible.
And I should note that the evidence and the reports and the claims that the president was unspooling were almost exclusively focused on the 2020 election, an election that he lost, a free and fair election that he lost. And it's an election that took place while he was president of the United States. It was his government, his CIA, his government that he was calling the deep state that hid things from him.
Right.
I mean, I was also struck by just like how much of this was already known. Specifically, I want to walk through some of the things that came up here, which is foreign influence, which is different than foreign interference, vulnerability, stuff that, as you mentioned, Miles, is well known in the election world.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:14
2
What did President Trump claim in his primetime address about new evidence of election fraud?
1:14–8:31
3
How much new evidence did NPR reporters find in the documents Trump released?
8:31–10:55
4
What foreign influence or interference did the speech allege and how credible is it?
10:55–26:05
5
What did Trump assert about non‑citizen voting and how reliable are those numbers?
26:05–31:20
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Why would a national voter database be controversial for election security?
31:20–33:21
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What is the political timing of the speech and how does it relate to the Save America Act?
33:21–35:17