How the Words You Choose Shape the Life You Live | Mark Nepo
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A very simple question that I return to in difficult times, whether it's physical, whether it's emotional, whether it's fear, confusion, is is what's before me heartening or disheartening? Is what's before me life-giving or life draining? If it's life draining or disheartening, then what am I doing? If it's life-giving and heartening, then even And if it's difficult, I'm all in.
Welcome to the One You Feed. Throughout time, great thinkers have recognized the importance of the thoughts we have. Quotes like garbage in, garbage out, or you are what you think ring true, and yet, for many of us, our thoughts don't strengthen or empower us. We tend toward negativity, self pity, jealousy, or fear. We see what we don't have instead of what we do. We think things that hold Hold us back and dampen our spirit. But it's not just about thinking. Our actions matter. It takes conscious, consistent, and creative effort to make a life worth living. This podcast is about how other people keep themselves moving in the right direction, how they feed their good wolf. Mark Nepo tells an old story in this episode.
A master hands his complaining apprentice a fistful of salt, has him stir it into a glass of water, and tells him to drink. The apprentice obviously drinks it, it's disgusting, he spits it out. Then the master walks him to a lake, has him throw the same amount of salt in, and tells him to drink again, and it tastes fine. The usual moral is that we should become more like the lake, create more space. And I agree, but I've also been arguing something else in my book and keynotes lately, and that's that we can also just stop putting so much salt in the glass, and a lot of that salt turns out to be words. Mark just wrote a whole book about the power of words, so we had a lot to talk about. I'm Eric Zimmer, and this is the One You Feed.
Hi Mark, welcome to the show. Oh, thank you. It's great to be with you again. You have a new book called The Language of the Soul, How the Words You Choose Shape the Life You Live. And we'll get into that in a moment, but we'll start in the way we always do with the parable. And in the parable, there's a grandparent who's talking with her grandchild, and they say, In life, there are two wolves inside of us that are always at battle. One is a good wolf, which represents things like kindness and bravery and love. And the other's a bad wolf, which represents things like greed and hatred and fear. And the grandchild stops, they think about it for a second, they look up at their grandparent and they say, Well, which one wins?
And the grandparent says, the one you feed. So I'd like to start off by asking you what that parable means to you in your life and in the work that you do.
I love that parable and and I think that it has to do with feeding The life of authenticity, the life of kindness, the life of our heart, and in our age particularly, feeding to restore our direct connection with life, that we f mis feed or feed the dark wolf, the unconscious wolf is the life of fear, the life of separation, the life of isolation. And in our world, especially right now, you know, we have a perfect storm of things that separate us. from technology to the insulation of our own unquestioned beliefs and opinions to pushing each other away. And so feeding those things only isolates us and diminishes us and suffocates us. And great love and great suffering have always been the great teachers.
Because they break us of that separation and that isolation. And as you well know, I know, and through me through my cancer journey many years ago and in the last two years through major back surgery, often it's a it's a a life changing or a threatening situation that jars us to feed I won't say right, to feed the enlivening wolf. And doesn't have to be It can be wonder or beauty or joy or being loved unconditionally for the first time in your life. So it often is something difficult, but not always. And we don't wanna we don't wanna deify suffering. We just wanna be open to where it takes us.
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