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The Pomp And Joe Show

Is it time to change our minds on Ben Cherington?

16 Feb 2026

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Transcript generated automatically by AI and may contain errors.

Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 14.988 Joe

All right, Bob, I promised a six pack of pirate questions. The first full day workout. I'm going to be in Florida over the weekend. Should I bop up to Bradenton? Maybe play some golf. Can you get me on a course and maybe stop by the pirates?

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15.008 - 21.656 Bob

You're packing an awful lot into just a couple of days because you're going to fly down Friday, right? Maybe Thursday. But who's counting?

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22.918 - 25.06 Bob

Okay. Well, yeah, you can do a lot of stuff down there.

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25.259 - 26.881 Joe

Yes, I can, and I will.

26.981 - 34.928 Bob

You have tee times already planned, I assume, right? Yes, I do, and I will. Okay. Well, why do you need me to set something up if you already have tee times planned?

34.948 - 42.655 Joe

Because I'll cancel one, go see the Pirates, and plan a better course that you set me up on. Okay. Limits, does that sound reasonable?

42.776 - 52.785 Bob

It sounds like something you'd do. I have one for you, but I will check it out to see if it's available. Thank you, Bob. You're going to have to play with a couple of people, but that's fine.

52.765 - 64.937 Joe

Of course. Now, Alex over at Naples Country Club, which is an unbelievable place, I feel bad contacting him to try to play again. Should I feel bad or should I contact him again?

Chapter 2: What does Jack Suwinski's DFA mean for Andrew McCutchen?

446.66 - 451.85 Joe

That would be unbelievable. What did he hit last year, limits? Like 170?

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452.792 - 462.633 Bob

So let's say he gets it up even at, let's say, 200. If he could somehow have the pop that comes with 15 home runs as a catcher, I'll take that for now and see if he can gradually get better in time.

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463.034 - 485.053 Joe

He's still young enough to do it. Definitely. And I'm open to it. I'm just highly concerned. And I've heard about swing changes and stance changes and things like that before with him and plenty of other guys. Mackey has a 1 plus 1 equals 2 equation here, and he could be right. He writes, as a minor league prospect, the rub on Davis was he couldn't catch.

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485.534 - 512.625 Joe

So he worked and worked on his defense, exhausting every available option until he found success there. And now we're going to doubt his ability to hit? Yeah, I am going to doubt his ability to hit based on everything I've seen. And I hope I'm wrong because I love this kid's attitude and I love his work ethic. I hope I'm wrong. But yes, I am going to severely doubt his ability to hit limits.

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512.806 - 526.578 Unknown

Well, he was drafted as a hitter and rushed through the minors. That's kind of one thing I worry about with Griffin. Like Davis was brought up so quickly because of his bat. And then we saw how badly his bat played. So there's something in there.

527.138 - 543.319 Unknown

And hopefully these necessary changes that Davis has made and the harsh reality that he is even just putting out there in the media is a realization of that. Where I just feel like probably 230, Bob, 10 plus home runs, maybe 40 RBIs would be a good bounce back up for him.

544.02 - 553.753 Joe

I think that one of the problems with baseball players is the ability to hit off-speed pitches, hit breaking pitches. And I'm not sure hard work

555.455 - 581.409 Joe

leads to that like O'Neal Cruz and I think Marte always had that problem and Davis has that problem it's almost like you either have a knack for recognizing that and being able to deal with it or you don't it feels like with a lot of guys and it looks to me like he doesn't and I don't know that eight million at-bats and changing a stance will change that I hope it does I truly do.

581.969 - 589.937 Joe

Man, if he becomes the hitter he was anything close to in AAA in college, if that ever translates, then he'll be an all-star catcher.

Chapter 3: How are Paul Skenes and Konnor Griffin impacting the Pirates' future?

882.897 - 888.584 Joe

Bob, you said 92 wins. I said, will you go on the record? And then you said no. You said no. You were kidding. But I will say.

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888.644 - 907.048 Bob

What will you say right now? I will say mid-80s and a wild card spot. That's what I think they're capable of doing. A lot of ifs here. If this pitching staff is what I think it can be, and that includes Chandler, that includes Keller being what he's been for largely most half of seasons, keeping them in games, getting a lot of innings. Yeah.

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907.028 - 922.371 Bob

That also includes Ashcraft living up to it and Jared Jones coming back from injury. There are a lot of ifs there, but the potential is largely there. So I think this will be the one year that they, I think they'll get in as a second wild card. I'm hoping for that because I want to see some legitimate baseball down the stretch.

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922.351 - 926.237 Joe

I say 85 wins and a wild card. Do you like that, Limits?

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926.537 - 938.195 Unknown

I do because I went on, I think it was Wednesday, first day of pitchers and catchers and said 83 to 85. If they make one more necessary move, it'll be 85. And I think they'll make that move and they'll sneak into the final wild card.

938.355 - 953.264 Joe

Funny you should say that, O Limitless Wonder, because my next question is, Bob, if a trade came up for an established third baseman right now and Mitch Keller was the trade bait, Would you do it?

955.346 - 956.787 Bob

Describe the third baseman I'd be getting.

957.228 - 967.738 Joe

You know, all the guys people have been talking about. Give me some names. Mark Vientos. The third base equivalent of Mitch Keller.

967.758 - 984.63 Bob

Yeah, I'd do it. So would I. You're going to get that money away, bring the same money back. But the problem is you're weakening probably your strength. And that's the thing that until Jarrett Jones gets back into this, I'm not sure they have enough in the starting pitching. to lose a Keller and still be good at it.

Chapter 4: How does Henry Davis's performance affect the team's outlook?

1385.941 - 1396.45 Bob

They get angry. And if you go near them, they're going to come after you. Yeah, wild turkeys. Right. Hold on a second. I see them all the time. That's the name of a drink, too. Did you know that? Wild turkey? Have you ever tried a wild turkey?

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1396.61 - 1404.68 Joe

No, says AI. Turkeys do not hibernate limits. Instead, wild turkeys are tough, non-migratory birds that stay active in their habitat throughout the winter.

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1405.501 - 1408.385 Unknown

Well, maybe they were just covered up in the snow. Ask them if they're aggressive.

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1409.447 - 1414.193 Joe

They rely on finding foods such as seeds, nuts, and berries. Did you know they were vegetarians, Bob?

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No.

1416.113 - 1419.798 Joe

He thought turkeys hibernated. I asked the question. This is unbelievable.

1419.818 - 1421.36 Bob

What do turkeys eat on Thanksgiving?

1421.4 - 1433.317 Unknown

Where would they go? How would they eat? They're not bears, right? They're not flying south for the winter or anything, but are they finding a comfortable little space where the turkeys can just lie down?

1433.657 - 1450.422 Joe

Well, it's interesting you say that. This says turkeys will roost out of the snow whenever possible. Ooh, they'll roost. During severe storms, they'll stay in trees, sheltering themselves from the weather. They're smart, Bob. Aren't they, turkeys? I mean, they're not that smart because they're on our Thanksgiving tables every year.

Chapter 5: How do the Pirates' prospects compare to current players?

1600.911 - 1605.457 Unknown

They're quick. Muffin is never out there by herself, always accompanied by an adult.

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1605.477 - 1608.441 Joe

What would you do if some sort of flying –

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1610.497 - 1637.196 Unknown

bird swooped down and picked up muffin what's your next move well after i finished crying i would probably try to shoot the bird or i just throw rocks at it i don't know i i've thought about that what do you do then i don't know what i would do yeah honestly that's really no way to chase that down that's why whenever i saw the hawk before i would stand right next to muffin so that nothing would happen

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1637.311 - 1651.708 Unknown

And then if the hawk came by, I would just start swinging at it. And they say Valor was dead, Bob. Yeah, you thought so, Bob. No, no. There's a lot of love in this punch right here, Bob. Coming up next.

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