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The Pomp And Joe Show

Ron Everhart joins Joe Starkey to react to the Sweet 16

27 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the hosts' thoughts on the NCAA tournament so far?

0.031 - 29.796 Joe Starkey

All right. Haven't touched on the NCAA tournament yet today. My bracket is in tatters, although is my national. Yes, my national championship game is still alive. It's St. John's against Michigan, I believe. My other two final four teams are dead. Houston and Arkansas. And I would imagine Ron Everhart feels the same way. Former Duquesne coach, longtime West Virginia assistant, many other spots.

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29.816 - 58.052 Joe Starkey

He'll be joining us in two minutes. Two minutes he'll join us. We're going to get to him. He was high on Arkansas, on Calipari, on Acuff, who did have 28, I believe. But, man, they just got hammered by Arizona. Sean Miller went down on a last-second tip-in. Great game. Illinois, better than I thought they were. Are they fun to watch, the way they play? Houston is not fun to watch.

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58.413 - 84.172 Joe Starkey

They were one of my final four teams, as I mentioned, and they just can't score. Just a painful, painful outing for Houston. And then maybe the best game was Iowa-Nebraska. And I was, of course, watching these. What a day and night of sports it was, Nellie, huh? I mean, I had on my phone, I had my phone, my laptop, and the TV going last night.

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84.833 - 97.074 Joe Starkey

Watching the Penguins on the TV in two different basketball games. And that was after the Pirates debacle. And by the way, I disagreed with Joe Block. Who else was on the radio call yesterday?

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98.216 - 103.301 Unknown

Brownie did the first five innings, and then Block took over, and I believe it was Matt Capps the entire way through.

103.321 - 118.058 Joe Starkey

The Mets stole a base in the bottom of the eighth up 11-5, and Block mentioned unwritten rules, and Capps said he was surprised it happened. Listen, man, six runs seems like a lot. It wasn't like it was 17-1.

Chapter 2: What did Ron Everhart observe in Arkansas's loss to Arizona?

118.662 - 142.316 Joe Starkey

And the Pirates wound up getting the Mets closer up in the ninth inning. You hit an early three-run homer there. In this case, it was a two-run double. You don't know what can happen in the ninth inning. My feeling is if you don't like it, stop them no matter what the score is, but especially in a slugfest that's already 11-5, go score two or three more if you're the Mets.

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142.336 - 144.9 Joe Starkey

Steal as many bases as you want, I think.

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145.08 - 156.499 Unknown

They did say that they were holding him on. Yeah. So, I mean, if you're holding him on, that means you think that he's going to steal. Therefore, if he steals, who cares? That's the point of the game. I agree.

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156.698 - 157.64 Joe Starkey

Yeah, that's the point.

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157.66 - 160.585 Unknown

If you're not holding him on. I mean, it was also his Major League debut.

160.605 - 186.135 Joe Starkey

Oh, I don't care if the Pirates don't hold him on, then that's their fault. It's 11-5, which means a couple batters into the ninth in a game where already people are whacking the ball around. You could be in a situation where you have to get your closer up, which they did. If it's 17-1, I get it. Where is Ron Everhart right now? Oh, Nelly. I'm calling him right now. What a nice man he is.

187.178 - 210.234 Joe Starkey

And then tonight, man, do we have some games tonight. And I think the most interesting of these for me is St. John's against Duke. I saw Dan Wetzel wrote today that Rick Pitino is the greatest basketball coach of all time. He might not be wrong. Someone will say, you ever hear of John Wooden? I'd say yes, but this guy has gone to different places and done it.

210.815 - 235.266 Joe Starkey

He was even pretty good in the NBA, but in college, he's just been an absolute wizard. No, no pun intended, but, No matter where he's gone. Then you have Nate Oates against Michigan. Then you have Hurley against Izzo. I mean, these are what a night of college basketball. I am going to be absolutely glued to my, well, not my television, Benzie's television. Tim Benz has invited me over tonight.

235.767 - 257.687 Joe Starkey

We've never socialized in our whole lives. Certainly not gone to each other's houses, Nelly. I'm going to Tim Benz's house tonight. What do you make of that? He's usually never home. He's got 19 different jobs. And should I bring something? You should always bring something. What? Are you good at making buffalo chicken dip? I'm not making anything. I'm buying something.

Chapter 3: Why does Ron believe Rick Pitino is the greatest college basketball coach?

749.635 - 775.626 Ron Everhart

Big test for them, a huge test for them in terms of this particular tournament run. I think with Duke also, I think people have to remember late in tournaments, even last year with Flagg and Knipple, who were maybe two of the very best players in the NBA this year as rookies, they did not win at all. So it's going to be interesting to see.

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777.158 - 799.802 Joe Starkey

Man, it sure will. Now, it's funny you say for you, Patino is the GOAT because Dan Wetzel just wrote today at ESPN.com. The headline is Rick Patino's case for best men's college basketball coach ever. He talks about him doing it with different schools. Him doing it without necessarily overwhelming talent all the time.

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799.942 - 823.604 Joe Starkey

I didn't know this, but he's only coached three future NBA All-Stars in his whole career. Donovan Mitchell, Jamal Mashburn, and Antoine Walker. Having said that... You know, there's John Wooden out there. There's other people who have won more national championships. There's Coach K. There's Adolph Rupp with his 822 winning percentage. There's John Wooden with 10 championships.

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823.624 - 826.709 Joe Starkey

So what's your case for Patino being the best ever?

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828.552 - 848.785 Ron Everhart

Well, I think, and I say that basically because he's still active and You know, I think it's kind of like the argument between who's the best NBA player ever. Well, you know, Bill Russell has the most rings. Michael Jordan was the most impressive. LeBron James may be a better athlete than both of them.

848.805 - 864.928 Ron Everhart

You know, there's all kinds of different arguments, and I think that once you're done coaching and you're in the Hall of Fame, you're that. And, you know, if we say, well, we're going to go by wins, then obviously Krzyzewski's the guy, right? I mean, I...

Chapter 4: What are the implications of St. John's playing against Duke?

865.364 - 896.304 Ron Everhart

I think that he's proven to be what everybody says that he is. But to me, the impressive thing about Coach Patino is he's still going at it, man. I mean, you know, I saw a video clip earlier in the year of him in the gym, in the actual weight room at St. John's facility, lifting and doing his workout and all that. And I'm thinking, man, at his age – he kind of reminds you of a Tom Brady type.

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896.584 - 922.928 Ron Everhart

The guy ages backwards. I think that obviously he's the GOAT in terms of active coaches. I think when you get into the best of all time ever, I think, Joe, you're spot on. I mean, there's probably a handful of guys that we could make an argument to that would be better or whatever, but you certainly can't ever say that

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924.595 - 953.387 Ron Everhart

Any of the coaches that aren't coaching anymore or that have passed on, I mean, you know, those guys have never done it like Coach Patino has done it, you know, with different schools. I think correctly with less talent from year to year and, you know, multiple NCAA tournament deep runs with multiple different schools. Of course, he has the record now. I think it's six, right?

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954.312 - 955.574 Joe Starkey

Yeah.

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955.734 - 966.029 Ron Everhart

Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know. You know, I just think what he's accomplished in this game is absolutely incredible.

966.049 - 974.822 Joe Starkey

It really is. Lastly, Ron, break down Michigan State-UConn Hurley against Izzo at 945. What a matchup.

976.003 - 980.59 Ron Everhart

Oh, man. And, you know, I tell you, it's going to be an absolute rock fight.

980.992 - 1012.455 Ron Everhart

Because I think there is an argument out there that Danny Hurley, having won two of the last three national titles and making a deep run this year so far, a lot of people, I think, have put him into that category as, if not the best, one of the better, younger, up-and-coming head coaches, kind of like Jay Wright did it back in the day. at Villanova and, uh, you know, Danny's done it at UConn.

1013.136 - 1037.202 Ron Everhart

And, uh, I don't think there's any argument about that, that part of it. And then of course, you know, you have the young, you know, gritty, tough, really good basketball coach. Whose dad is a legend in, in, in St. Anthony's in Jersey city, uh, against Tom Izzo, who's a legend in his own right in Michigan and, It's like he's there every year. He's the old-time Hall of Famer.

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