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The Pomp And Joe Show

The New England Patriots and Seattle Seahawks are ready for Super Bowl LX

26 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: Why are the New England Patriots and Seattle Seahawks considered unlikely Super Bowl contenders?

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Bob, it's the most unlikely Super Bowl there has ever been. Do you know that? Meaning what? Unlikely from the beginning of the season? Meaning it's the first time where teams that were 60-1 or worse to make the Super Bowl at the beginning of the season have made it. Both of them. I think the Seahawks were 60-1, the Patriots were 80-1. First time ever.

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So yes, if you look back at the beginning of the season, it's the most unlikely Super Bowl there ever was. Think about it. Zero people predicted either of these teams to be in the Super Bowl. It was all about the Ravens and Chiefs and Bills and Lions and, yes, Eagles. unbelievable what transpired this season.

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I think that's why the NFL is as popular as it is.

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But it never happens this way.

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That's the whole point. It usually is very predictable. Normally you do get different teams that go from worst to first and they don't necessarily end up in the Super Bowl, but they change their fortunes around pretty quickly. And Seattle certainly was one of those teams.

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And given the fact that they had Geno Smith a year ago, got rid of him, and many people thought that was a terrible move, they brought in Sam Darnold, they have

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clint kubiak they have a very good run game which they've had for a couple of years now um and they almost lost it because of a taunting call um which that was ridiculous the whole was it the whole taunting thing is so stupid guys get guys get up after every play and are john and each other's faces making making you go to comments to the other bench it happens all the time when you go to the sidelines though in those situations you have to be smarter don't you don't

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I guess you have to be smarter, but I see it happen all the time. Guys, look over at the opposing bench. Did he stay a second too long? Probably. Is that how you want to decide? I'm not saying this decided it because it obviously didn't. They still won. Is that how you want to decide which team goes to the Super Bowl? I thought it was ridiculous.

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No, but I think his teammates on that side of the field were getting after him a little bit for how could you be this stupid.

Chapter 2: What factors contributed to the Seahawks and Patriots making the Super Bowl?

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We're going to end up right where we started talking about why it's so important to have a franchise quarterback in place. And you have to get it figured out. It's very hard to do if you're not in a position to draft them. And they have not been in that position, so now they have to figure it out.

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With what they have and what they're going to add on because they're going to bring somebody else in, just a matter of who that is. If it's Malik Willis, if they're going to do that, then fine, except I would make sure that it was a two-man battle for that job.

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Well, why don't we finish where we began today, Wonder Twin, and that is just opening the lines on one of the biggest decisions in Pittsburgh sports history. Hiring a Steelers coach. It happens once pretty much every one of your lifetimes. You've only been alive for 25 years.

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Yeah, well, I will in March. Should we have a Jubilee for me turning 25? Is that like a big birthday?

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I don't know. What is a jubilee, Bob?

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Once you turn 21, after that, I feel like there's no big birthday again until like 30, and I don't even want to look even close to that.

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Well, they become less interesting if you're the person going through it. Like when you're younger, you start getting older, and then they start using terms you don't like. Like, you're going to turn 30, turning. Then you're going to become 40, and then you arrive at 60.

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I heard that all the time. Oh, you've arrived at 60.

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I lost track. It doesn't matter anymore. That's what I'm saying. I don't, I don't even, you know, birthdays are birthdays. They come and go. Can't look at it that way.

Chapter 3: How do the offensive and defensive strategies of both teams compare?

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subtracting it by the year that Ron graduated and got his age. Which is what?

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Working some numbers together. I'd say around there.

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I think he was 68 when he retired, yeah.

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Looks good. I would love to have celebrated some of Ron's birthdays with him. And if he's turned 70 in the meantime, I would love to have celebrated that. I might have gone to Florida. Man, am I jealous of him now.

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We got to ask, given all this weather, Matt Zigarelli, he had this on Twitter. He says, shout out to you guys. We've been shoveling the driveway all day. Your entire show has been on. Thanks for keeping us sane.

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Awesome.

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Thanks for listening.

382.823 - 390.034 Joe

Thanks, Matt. Thank you, Matt. Bob, you and I should be with Alex Urea in Naples right now playing golf.

Chapter 4: What impact do the quarterbacks have on the Super Bowl match-up?

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And, you know, back then, a lot of those guys who got on the, quote, senior tour when they were playing still had a lot of game left. And many of them still do. And their whole careers are golf. This is a guy who just dabbled in it, took it seriously enough that he could actually try to win and did win. Rick Roden tried the same thing. Do you remember him? Of course, from the Mario thing.

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He was a great golfer, former pirate pitcher. He can't get to that next level. It's hard to win those kind of events. The next level is ridiculous. It's ridiculous, but he did it.

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Crazy. I put that up there with the greatest sports feats that have ever been done. That a football player, and I know he played some college golf at Stanford and things like that, walked into that environment against legends and beat them.

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Wow. At age 56, Bob. As you said, it wasn't just anyone. It's guys who were established on a tour, and they still were in good enough shape where they were still competing on that tour and winning. And so he came out of nowhere and won, which is crazy. It is.

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Love the story. That was courtesy of, again, Mike Sando, who did a really good piece in The Athletic today on a bunch of different things, just a football extravaganza.

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And it was almost similar in reverse. The story yesterday, that 18-year-old Blades Brown was playing in the PGA Tour event. He was paired with Scotty Scheffler at the end. He almost shot 59 on Friday.

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Almost 59.

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He's 18. He said, I'm bypassing all these others. I'm going, I want to be a tour player.

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It's insane. What's he going to do next, Bob? A hole-in-one on every, shoot an 18?

Chapter 5: What role does coaching play in the success of these teams?

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I do, too. He strikes me as a very confident guy at what he does. He is. I'll tell you what, their GM has been there for a long time, and he makes some shrewd calls. You want to talk about response? There were a lot of people who did not like the fact they wanted to let Geno Smith go, and they eventually did.

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He was a guy who gave him $100-plus million, too, but he just got to the point where he said, we're going to make a move there. We're changing directions.

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You think people in Baltimore are sick over the fact they let McDonald out of the building?

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Maybe, but he was just one of those guys who needed an opportunity to get a head coach, and they weren't at that point going to get rid of Harbaugh. Here's the last little treat I have for you, Bob.

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Are you ready for yet another treat? Keep feeding him, baby. You like treats, don't you?

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Especially if they're salty.

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My little dog, Bailey, he'll eat a treat from anywhere. He'll eat anything, Bob. I've never seen him not eat something. Have your dogs done the same thing?

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Yeah, same thing. It didn't matter what.

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You could offer him a sardine. He's eating it.

Chapter 6: Should L.C. Greenwood be inducted into the Hall of Fame?

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Those other guys are certainly on the precipice of being in as well. That's a tough choice to make, but you'd have to give Kraft his due.

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For me, I guess I'd go Kraft and Roger Craig, although I would need to see more...

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numbers on lc greenwood players defensive players from that era are hard to quantify they didn't keep as many records in as many different categories as they do now notably sacks but he had four sacks in a super bowl isn't that a record yes he sacked he sacked stawback four times in the first cowboys steelers super bowl so maybe it would be three but not four yeah i mean

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Roger Craig was a hell of a player. Was he the first guy to have 1,000 yards rushing and receiving in a season, Bob?

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If he wasn't, he soon followed. He was very good at that. One of the best all-purpose running backs you're going to find.

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Ever. Let me try to look that up if you don't mind, Bob.

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Yeah, I like, you know.

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Yes, he was. In 1985, Roger Craig, in 16 games, had 1,050 yards rushing and 1,016 yards receiving. 92 receptions.

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And if you're Le'Veon Bellin, you had those numbers. You say, I'm two people. I want double the salary because I'm two people. I'm a receiver and I'm a runner both.

Chapter 7: What are the arguments for and against Bob Kraft's Hall of Fame candidacy?

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Don't have any clue. Limits? Leroy Curtis. I don't know. It doesn't say here, Bob. Let's go to the phone lines. A grade on McCarthy. What's the vibe around Mike McCarthy? We have breaking news, Bob. Uh-oh, the bell. It's time. Is this Buffalo's head coach?

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Mike McDaniel staying in?

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No. Better. The NFL has announced a new addition to the Pro Bowl roster. What? quarterback shader sanders no that's a joke that's ai you're not reading you're not reading it right that's gotta be according to jordan schultz of fox shader sanders has been added into the pro bowl this should be the last time that ever happens even in the farcical form that it is it's ridiculous

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Shadur had seven touchdowns and ten picks this year.

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He's the only guy who said yes when they asked him? Apparently, yes.

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Who was the Cleveland Brown who got in that one year? He had a pretty good year, though. He was back in the mid-2000s. Derrick Anderson. Derrick Anderson. Huntley got in. Tyler Huntley got in one year. I mean, that's, come on. Shadur Sanders with more picks than touchdowns. He gets some sort of bonus because of that, too, which is stupid.

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He should be the starter, Bob.

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All right, to the phone lines limits.

Chapter 8: How do historical statistics affect Hall of Fame decisions?

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You're going to have to find one of the most talented prospects ever and hope he drops in the draft.

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Yeah, I think where we're headed, and I know, Joe, you're not excited about Will Howard maybe being the guy next year, but if they decide, look, what better option do we have at this point? Maybe they bring somebody in, but let's just assume Will Howard kind of wins the competition. and they have a five or six win season next year.

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Now, supposedly, well, they will be drafting in the top third of the draft, and maybe they'll have their chance to get their guy, just like when they won six games and they had a chance at best.

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Do you like Ty Simpson? Some people do.

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Would you draft him? I'm of the mindset now that says, take the guy. See what you get. And if he doesn't work, then, man, you go back to the drawing board. And that was my feeling about Jackson Dart last year. There were questions about Jackson Dart, but he comes out and he looks like he could be the real deal.

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Emphasis on could be, because we really won't know for him until he gets a chance to really kind of spread his wings and get some good coaching up there, which looks like it's on its way.

1244.95 - 1257.435 Bob

Good call. I think you're right on with the analysis there. But until they do that, they have to make a commitment to somebody here and play that somebody, whether it's Will Allen or somebody else they bring in, whatever the case may be.

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Next. Joe, we have to go. We'll be back in a moment with more of your calls.

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I won't be. I have to go shovel or at least try to dig myself out of something at home.

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