The Proof with Simon Hill
Episodes
Using science to build muscle and grow stronger | Dr Stuart Phillips
13 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #210, Professor Stuart Phillips returns to expand on our conversation about using science to improve training outcomes. One very common cr...
Omega 3’s during pregnancy and lactation | Dr Kristina Harris
07 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #209, I sit down with Dr Kristina Harris Jackson to deep dive into the effects of omega-3 consumption on lactation and pregnancy. Dr Krist...
Optimising your omega 3 intake | Dr Bill Harris
31 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #208, I’m joined by expert researcher Dr Bill Harris to discuss the relationship between omega-3 fatty acids and human health. Increasin...
Making sense of nutrition | Dr Gil Carvalho
23 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #207, Dr Gil Carvalho explains how to approach nutrition information from an evidence-based viewpoint, breaking down the details of data an...
Seed oils, blood tests and how sleep affects body weight | Drew Harrisberg
16 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #206, Drew Harrisberg joins me to debrief The Proof’s first debate and discuss blood tests, sleep, and the interaction between HIIT train...
Dr Andrew Huberman | Understanding your brain + optimising its function
09 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #205, I sit down with Dr Andrew Huberman to discuss the nervous system and how lifestyle choices impact your brain. As a neuroscientist and...
Fasting controversies | Dr Courtney Peterson & Dr Emily Manoogian
04 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #204, I’m joined by leading researchers Dr Emily Manoogian and Dr Courtney Peterson. Drs Emily and Courtney both research the way food ti...
Hadza, chocolate, and resistance training | Drew Harrisberg
02 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #203, I welcome Drew Harrisberg back to the show for another episode to discuss a variety of topics, from the Hadza tribe and their diet to...
How the microbiome affects your health and ways to optimise it | Drs Erica & Justin Sonnenburg
25 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #202, I’m joined by Drs Erica and Justin Sonnenburg to learn more about microbes and the gut microbiome. This episode, we recap (or intro...
Power of phytochemicals | Dr Jed Fahey
18 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #201, I welcome Dr Jed Fahey to The Proof to discuss phytochemicals and their impacts on human health. As a nutritional biochemist with an ...
Blood glucose, CGM’s, meat and longevity | Drew Harrisberg
11 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #200, Drew Harrisberg joins me for the first episode of a new era: The Proof. On this episode, we discuss blood glucose, CGMs, meat and lon...
Why we need science now more than ever
08 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Join me in Episode #199, the last episode of Plant Proof and the start of a new chapter. Listen to my learnings from the past years with Plant Proof, ...
Soy foods and cardiometabolic health | Dr Matthew Nagra
29 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #198, Dr Nagra returns for part two of our deep dive into soy and its impact on human health. In this episode we investigate more of the ev...
Soy foods, hormones and cancer | Dr Matthew Nagra
21 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #197, Dr Matthew Nagra shares his evidence-based knowledge on soy and its relationship to cancer and hormones. Soy’s health benefits are ...
How to regain hormonal health with PCOS | Dr Nitu Bajekal
14 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #196 I’m joined by Dr Nitu Bajekal to discuss PCOS and how to manage it. Hormonal health is an area that is often underdiagnosed, undertr...
Managing hunger hormones | Nutritionist Kelly LeVeque
07 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
There are a myriad of defining factors linking the way we eat to the way we experience health. Regulating blood sugar and hunger hormones help form th...
Your Appetite for Protein | Professors David Raubenheimer and Stephen J Simpson
27 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #194, I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Professors David Raubenheimer and Stephen J. Simpson. For over thirty years, David and ...
Building a Healthy Relationship with Food | Taylor Wolfram
21 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #193, I sat down with registered dietitian Taylor Wolfram to talk about diet culture, intuitive eating, and ways to build a healthier relat...
Simple Ways to Eat More Plants for a Healthier and Happier You | Carleigh Bodrug
14 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #192, I sat down with Carleigh Bodrug, author of the new plant-based cook book Plant You, to talk about simple ways to eat more plants for ...
Fermented Foods, Fibre, and Immunity | Justin Sonnenburg, PhD, and Christopher Gardner, PhD
07 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #191, I sat down with Stanford University Professors Dr Christopher Gardner and Dr Justin Sonnenburg to talk about fermented foods, fibre, ...
Get Stronger to Live Longer | Stuart Phillips, PhD
31 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #190, I sat down with Professor Stuart Phillips to discuss the importance of exercise, nutrition, and recovery in building muscle and impro...
Managing Menopause | Dr Gemma Newman
23 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #189, I sat down with Gemma Newman, MD, to talk about all things menopause. This episode covers what menopause is, its stages, why it occur...
Tips for Optimal Brain Health | Drs Dean and Ayesha Sherzai
20 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #188, a throwback to previous episodes, we hear from neurologists Dean and Ayesha Sherzai on building a lifestyle that promotes brain healt...
Diet and Mental Health | Nutrition Scientist Megan Lee
16 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #187, I sat down with Megan Lee to talk about food and mental health. Megan is a career researcher, scientist, and academic at Bond Univers...
Loss, Grief, and Compassion | Chef Derek Sarno
11 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #186, a condensed throwback to Episode #15, we hear from chef Derek Sarno. Derek is the co-founder of Wicked Kitchen – a food company off...
Training, Nutrition, Supplements, and Mindset | Nimai Delgado
09 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #185, I sat back down with Nimai Delgado to continue our ongoing conversation about training, nutrition, supplementation, and life in gener...
Food Waste | Max La Manna
26 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #184, a condensed throwback to Episode #13 in 2018, we hear from Max La Manna on his decision to adopt a plant-based diet and why we should...
Vegan Propaganda | Earthling Ed
19 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #183, I sat down with the iconic and eloquent Ed Winters, aka Earthling Ed, to chat about all things plant based. In this conversation, we ...
Transitioning to a Plant-Based Business | Erin Ireland
16 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #182, a condensed throwback to Episode #54, we hear from Erin Ireland about transitioning her business to a plant-based company. This episo...
Cholesterol, Keto Diets, and Heart Disease | Dr Spencer Nadolsky
13 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #181, I sat down with physician and lipid specialist Dr Spencer Nadolsky to talk about cholesterol, ketogenic diets, and cardiovascular dis...
Exploring a New Life | Chef Gaz Oakley
07 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #180, a condensed throwback to Episode #32, we hear from chef Gaz Oakley on why he changed his diet and his approach to cooking. In our con...
Story of Juicero | Doug Evans
02 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #179, I sat down with Doug Evans, serial entrepreneur and author of The Sprout Book, to chat about his journey in business – specifically...
Food Ideology | Melanie Joy, PhD
29 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #178, a condensed throwback to Episode #112, we hear from Harvard-trained psychologist Dr Melanie Joy about food ideology and speciesism. ...
Lessons from First Nations People | Sanjay Rawal
21 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #177, I sat down with filmmaker Sanjay Rawal to talk about his film Gather, which documents the growing movement among Native Americans to ...
Inspiring Change through Delicious Food | Chef Matthew Kenney
14 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #176, I sat down with world-renowned chef, agent of change, and entrepreneur Matthew Kenney to talk about his journey and how chefs are in ...
Is Happiness the Key to Solving Climate Change? | Nicholas Carter
10 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #175, environmental scientist Nicholas Carter returns to give us an update on the health of our planet, explain what COP26 is, and suggest ...
Using Science to Solve Climate Change | Jonathan Foley, PhD
06 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #174, a condensed throwback to Episode #119, we hear from climate scientist Dr Jonathan Foley on the current state of climate change and wh...
Is Coffee Healthy? | Danny Lennon
02 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #173, I sat down with Danny Lennon to discuss the effects of coffee on our health. If you’re curious about the relationship between coffe...
Navigating Nutrition during Pregnancy and Infancy | Dietitian Whitney English
28 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #172, a condensed throwback to Episode #95, we hear from Whitney English on navigating nutrition during pregnancy and infancy. Whitney is a...
A Fertility Diet | Dr Aviva Romm
24 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #171, I sat down with Aviva Romm, MD, to chat about her new book, Hormone Intelligence, and an evidence-based diet for optimising fertility...
Fighting the Fires of Chronic Disease | Rip Esselstyn
20 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #170, a throwback to Episode #77, we hear from Rip Esselstyn, author of The Engine 2 Diet and founder of PLANTSTRONG, about his work empowe...
Future of Meat | Paul Shapiro
19 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #169, I sat down with Paul Shapiro, author of Clean Meat and the CEO and co-founder of The Better Meat Co., to chat about the future of foo...
Fruit, Fructose, and Diabetes | Robby Barbaro, MPH, and Cyrus Khambatta, PhD
13 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #168, a condensed throwback to Episode #94, we hear from Robby Barbaro and Cyrus Khambatta – New York Times bestselling authors of Master...
Is Plant-Based Meat Healthy? | Christopher Gardner, PhD
09 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #167, I sat down with Stanford Professor Christopher Gardner to chat about his recent SWAP-MEAT trial that compared plant-based meat to ani...
Protecting Earth | Jimmy Halfcut
07 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #166, a Wednesday Wisdoms throwback to Episode #92, we hear from crowd favourite James Stanton Cooke, or ‘Jimmy Halfcut’, on regenerati...
What You Eat Matters | Ocean Robbins
02 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #165, I sat down with Ocean Robbins, co-founder of the Food Revolution Network. Ocean is the son of John Robbins, who authored Diet for a N...
Ethics of Eating Animals | Seb Alex
01 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #164, a throwback to Episode #88, we hear Seb Alex’s thoughts on the ethics of eating animal-based foods. As you know, I usually like to ...
Activating Your Inner Guidance | Light Watkins
25 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #163, I sat down with Light Watkins to talk about his new book Knowing Where to Look, living with ‘less’, meditation, the still small v...
Nurturing Your Body Clock | Emily Manoogian, PhD
22 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #162, a condensed throwback to Episode #114, we hear from Emily Manoogian, PhD, on working with our circadian rhythms rather than against t...
Better Sleep | Dr Frank Lipman
19 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #161, I sat down with Frank Lipman, MD, to talk about why we should take sleep more seriously and how to improve it. We discussed what slee...
Eco-Friendly Food Choices | Hannah Ritchie, PhD
16 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #160, a throwback to Episode #120, we hear from Hannah Ritchie, PhD. Hannah is a wonderfully well-researched geoscientist who works with Ou...
Protect Your Heart | Alan Flanagan, MSc
12 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #159, I sat down with nutrition scientist Alan Flanagan to take a deep dive into the history of the diet-heart hypothesis, with emphasis on...
Handling a Shock Diagnosis | Drew Harrisberg
07 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #158, a Wednesday Wisdoms episode, we hear from my good friend Drew Harrisberg on why being diagnosed with chronic disease in his early 20s...
How a Plant-Based Athlete Eats | John Rush
04 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #157, I sat down with Canadian professional footballer John Rush to chat about his career and dietary lifestyle. In this episode, we cov...
Psychosis, Anxiety, Addiction, and OCD | Osher Günsberg
01 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #156, a Wednesday Wisdoms throwback to Episode #20, Australian TV icon Osher Günsberg opens up about his struggles with psychosis, anxiety...
Endometriosis and Reproductive Health | Dr Nitu Bajekal
29 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #155, I sat down with gynaecologist and obstetrician Nitu Bajekal to talk about endometriosis and the female reproductive system. In thi...
Autoimmunity and Inflammation | Clint Paddison
26 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #154, a condensed version of Episode #61, we hear from Clint Paddison about his personal journey with rheumatoid arthritis and how he has c...
Plant-Based Nutrition for Families | Dietitian Brenda Davis
22 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #153, I sat down with registered dietitian Brenda Davis for a conversation I have wanted to have for some time now. Brenda is one of the mo...
Eradicating Heart Disease Begins at Breakfast | Dr Kim William
19 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #152, a throwback to Episode #90, we hear from Dr Kim Williams, an American cardiologist and former president of the American College of Ca...
Rethinking Diet and Exercise | Herman Pontzer, PhD
15 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #151, I sat down with evolutionary anthropologist Herman Pontzer, PhD, to talk about ancestral eating and how his work with the Hadza (a hu...
Fighting Climate Change One Meal at a Time | Suzy Cameron
12 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Episode #150 is a Wednesday Wisdoms throwback to Episode #36 with Suzy Amis Cameron. This was a powerful, judgement-free conversation about how our fo...
Looking After Our Thyroid | Dr Brittany Henderson
09 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #149, I sat down with endocrinologist Dr Brittany Henderson to talk about thyroid health. Whether you have a thyroid condition yourself or ...
Solving the Protein Problem | Bruce Friedrich
04 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #148, I sat down with Bruce Friedrich, the founder and president of Good Food Institute, a not-for-profit organisation developing the roadm...
Defending the Ocean | Tim Silverwood
02 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #147, I sat down once more with environmentalist Tim Silverwood to talk about the importance of defending our ocean. Tim is the co-founder ...
Eating to Improve Your Heart Health | Cardiologist Dr Robert Ostfeld
28 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #146, we hear from cardiologist Dr Rob Ostfeld on where we are going wrong with our diet and what changes we can make to improve our cardio...
Low-Carb Versus High-Carb Diets for Weight Loss | Christopher Gardner, PhD
25 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #145, I sat down with Professor Christopher Gardner from Stanford University to chat about his research on low- versus high-carb diets for ...
Love as a Catalyst for Lifelong Change | Adam Sud
22 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #144, we hear from Adam Sud on his battle with depression and addiction, and how he ultimately turned his life around by flipping the narra...
Optimising Gut Health | Dr Sarina Pasricha, Dr Alan Desmond, and Dr Will Bulsiewicz – Part 2
18 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #143, the second of a two-part series, we hear from three gastroenterologists – Dr Sarina Pasricha, Dr Alan Desmond, and Dr Will Bulsiewi...
How Food May Be Affecting Your Mood | Psychiatrist Dr Uma Naidoo
15 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #142, another Wednesday Wisdoms episode, you will hear from Harvard-trained nutritional psychiatrist and bestselling author Dr Uma Naidoo o...
Optimising Gut Health | Dr Sarina Pasricha, Dr Alan Desmond, and Dr Will Bulsiewicz – Part 1
13 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #141, the first of a two-part series, we hear from three gastroenterologists – Dr Sarina Pasricha, Dr Alan Desmond, and Dr Will Bulsiewic...
Restoring Your Health | Will Bulsiewicz, MD
07 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #140, Dr Will Bulsiewicz joined me for a Wednesday Wisdoms episode dedicated to exploring the health benefits of eating more fibre and bett...
How to Lower Your Risk of Colorectal Cancer | Alan Desmond, MD
04 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #139, I sat down with gastroenterologist Alan Desmond, MD, to talk about colorectal cancer – the third most common form of cancer globall...
Paleo, Plant-Based, or Other | Dr David Katz
30 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #138, we hear from David Katz, MD, about eating for optimal health. In a world of diet extremes and dogma, Dr Katz offers a much-needed voi...
Animal Versus Plant Protein for Building Muscle and Strength | Hamilton Roschel
27 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #137, I sat down with scientist Hamilton Roschel to discuss his recent study investigating whether the source of protein – animal or plan...
How Your Diet Affects the Planet | Nicholas Carter
23 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #136, we hear from environmental researcher Nicholas Carter on how the food choices we make affect the world around us. In this episode,...
Dealing With Your Demons | Doug Bopst
21 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #135, I sat down with author, motivational speaker, and ex-convict Doug Bopst to discuss his journey from battling with addiction, dealing ...
Ageing Better | Dan Buettner
16 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #134, I sat down with Dan Buettner, bestselling author of The Blue Zones, to chat about longevity lessons we can learn from the healthiest ...
Protein Truths | Dr Matthew Nagra
13 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #133, I sat down with Matthew Nagra, ND, to tackle the almighty protein topic! You know, the substance we are all fascinated by. What is...
What You Need to Know about Dietary Fats | Dr Michelle McMacken
09 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #132, Dr Michelle McMacken walks us through the most important things we need to know about dietary fats and promoting good health. Listen ...
Do You Want a Good Life? | Shark Attack Survivor Paul de Gelder
06 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #131, I sat down with Paul de Gelder to talk about his journey to the military and his near-death shark attack experience in Sydney harbour...
Welcoming Challenges into Your Life | Rich Roll
02 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #130, the very first Wednesday Wisdoms bite-size episode, ultra-athlete and author Rich Roll talks about investing in experience, welcoming...
Power of Choice | Actor Adrian Grenier
30 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #129, I sat down with Hollywood actor, musician, and environmentalist Adrian Grenier to chat about his learnings from his life and the chan...
A Predominately Plant-Based Diet for Babies and Toddlers | Alexandra Caspero and Whitney English
23 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #128, I’m joined by registered dietitians Alexandra Caspero and Whitney English to discuss raising babies and toddlers on a predominately...
Climate-Friendly Food | The Environmental Cowboy, Khory Hancock
18 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #127, I sat down with Khory Hancock, an Australian media personality and environmental scientist, to chat about planetary health and soluti...
Practical Tips for a Healthy Brain | Drs Dean and Ayesha Sherzai
12 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #126, I have pulled together the very best of Team Sherzai from our previous episodes together to create a masterclass on improving the hea...
Getting Down to Earth | Darin Olien
02 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #125, I sat down with New York Times bestselling author Darin Olien to chat about his view on human and planetary health, as well as his ti...
Are You Suffering from Unhealthy Comparison? | Melissa Ambrosini
21 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #124, I sat down with bestselling author and podcast host Melissa Ambrosini to talk about comparison; or more specifically, how unhealthy c...
Feel Happier, Lose Weight, and Reduce Your Risk of Chronic Disease | Gastroenterologist Dr Alan Desmond
11 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #123, I sat back down with Dr Alan Desmond to continue our conversation on all things gut health! Alan shared his path to gastroenterology ...
A Simple Prescription for a Healthier You | Dr Gemma Newman
28 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #122, I sat down with Dr Gemma Newman to chat about her new book, The Plant Power Doctor, and the benefits of a plant-based approach. We co...
Don’t Wait for Pain to Change Your Lifestyle | Drew Harrisberg
21 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #121, I sat down with Drew Harrisberg (again) to talk about my new book, The Proof is in the Plants, and why it’s important for us to con...
Healing the Planet with Our Food Choices | Hannah Ritchie, PhD
09 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #120, I sat down with Dr Hannah Ritchie, geoscientist and senior researcher at Our World in Data, to dive deeper into our food system and t...
Approaching Climate Change Like a Game of Chess | Jonathan Foley, PhD
20 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #119, I sat down with Dr Jonathan Foley, one of the world’s most highly regarded climate and environmental scientists. Jonathan has publi...
Rewilding Our Planet | Jimmy Halfcut
15 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #118, I sat down with James Stanton-Cooke, or Jimmy Halfcut as he goes by, to talk about the current climate conversation here in Australia...
Omega-3s and Brain Health | Drs Dean and Ayesha Sherzai
29 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #117, I sat down with Drs Dean and Ayesha Sherzai, leading neurologists who specialise in cognitive impairment and Alzheimer’s. Recently,...
Is Grass-Fed Beef Good for Our Planet? | Nicholas Carter
24 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #116, I sat down with environmental researcher Nicholas Carter to talk more about grass-fed beef and planetary health. We started by discus...
Future of Protein | Thomas King
12 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #115, I sat down again with Thomas King, the founder and CEO of Food Frontier, a not-for-profit organisation that is helping build the futu...
When We Eat Matters | Emily Manoogian, PhD
08 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #114, I sat down with Emily Manoogian, PhD, from the Panda Lab at Salk Institute for Biological Studies, to learn about how we can improve ...
Upgrade Your Health by Changing the Foods You Eat | Matthew Nagra, ND
01 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #113, I sat down with Dr Matthew Nagra to talk about how he uses evidence-based nutrition science to help his patients upgrade their health...
Carnism and Communication | Melanie Joy, PhD
19 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #112, I sat down with Harvard-educated psychologist and bestselling author Melanie Joy to discuss how we form our beliefs about food and ho...
Can Holistic Grazing Reverse Climate Change? A review of Kiss the Ground | Nicholas Carter
30 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode #111, I sat down with environmental researcher Nicholas Carter to discuss the claims made in the Kiss the Ground documentary that was relea...