You Won't Win With Money If You're Not Aligned With A Plan

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Rachel Cruze 0:31
So give us a call at 888-825-5225, and we'll be talking about your life, your money, relationships, career, anything and everything. All right, first up, starting us off, we have Joseph in Boston. Hey, Joseph, welcome to the show.
Dr. John Deloney 0:47
Thank you so much. Thanks for taking my call.
Rachel Cruze 0:50
Absolutely. How can we help?
Dr. John Deloney 0:53
Well, so my wife and I, future Baby Step Millionaires, started on these about a couple months ago. And we also had our first daughter about five months ago.
Rachel Cruze 1:05
Congratulations.
Dr. John Deloney 1:07
Thank you so much. Thanks be to God. It was waiting quite a while. Oh, that's great. So my question is, I kind of came to a revelation in the discussion with my sister the other day about how all of us siblings are kind of not very good with money, haven't been historically just disciplined with money. And it's weird because we both had very frugal TPA, CFO parents. And so it kind of tells me that just being good with money isn't enough to kind of impart that. I love my parents. I'm not blaming them for everything. But just something about our childhood, we just didn't get that knowledge kind of instilled enough in that discipline, in that prudence with money. And I'm just kind of wondering, I kind of want to break the cycle.
Dr. John Deloney 1:56
And what's the best way when my daughter becomes of age, like how to kind of teach her that without being too strict?
Rachel Cruze 2:03
Sure, sure. You know, I think you bring up such a good point because a lot of people assume that if you're like – I mean, I'm assuming they're both savers, probably very frugal people. Is that right, your parents?

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Dr. John Deloney 2:16
Yeah, they were frugal. We weren't spoiled. We just never really – Suffered, I guess we were very comfortable, very comfortable childhood. And they were already, if we asked them about something, and especially this is true later in life, asking for financial advice, they're really open about it. But there was never a really concerted effort to like teach us at like at the time when we were most, I guess. A little spongy.
Rachel Cruze 2:40
Impressionable, yeah. Sure. And do you feel like they missed the mark from the tactical side, is what you're saying, on how to budget and that kind of thing? Or do you think the spirit around money? Because what I was hearing you kind of say is as CPAs and as people that are good with money, sometimes those people can lean on the end of... being so frugal to the point where there's, like, not a level of hoarding, but they hold their money so closely that they almost can't enjoy it. And if you don't have this well-rounded spirit with money, it can kind of cut you, like, you know what I mean? You go the opposite direction. Yeah, yeah. You want to go the opposite direction.

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Dr. John Deloney 3:13
Yeah, but they weren't like that either. I think it was a communication issue. Like, they didn't seem to be frugal. Like, we... I mean, they were smart with money. They seemed to handle money really well, and they weren't hoarding anything. We asked them for something like they paid for college. But we just, I guess there was just never a lack of communication about money.
Dave Ramsey 3:35
Well, let me ask you this. What areas specifically do you feel like you were missing? And what are those areas that you want to pass along? Was it, like Rachel said, was it budgeting specifically? Was it the dangers of debt? What was it that you feel like, man, if only I'd known that, that would have really, really helped me. And that's the thing that I want to make sure I hone in on.
Dr. John Deloney 3:55
I would say, I guess, yeah, I mean, maybe the budget. I don't know. It's, it's kind of, it's kind of a little bit of everything, but, uh, I guess, yeah, the dangers of debt is huge, but, um, kind of just, I guess being disciplined, like, yeah, just being willing your money to go somewhere.

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