207. Gordon Brown: How to Fix a Fracturing World

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What does Gordon Brown consider his biggest lessons from leading the UK through the global financial crisis?

Alastair Campbell 0:00
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Alastair Campbell 0:22
Gordon Brown is a huge figure in the history of the Labour Party and indeed in the history of modern Britain. He was a child prodigy. He was one of the youngest people ever to go to a Scottish university. He's political to his fingertips, a clear rising star through the Labour Party, entered Parliament in the eighties, was always destined for great things, and became the longest serving Chancellor of our lifetime, a decade at number eleven, and then reported. replaced Tony Blair as Prime Minister for three years, two thousand seven to two thousand ten. What will history say about him? They'll probably remember that he was the Chancellor who led not just Britain, but some argue the the world through the global financial crisis.
Alastair Campbell 1:10
You'll see that he's actually somebody who recognise he's not necessarily the greatest modern communicator of all time, but an absolute titan of labour politics and still making a big contribution to political debates. We're delighted to have him.
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IG, Trade, Invest Progress, Capital Risk, Other Fees May Apply. We're delighted to be with Gordon Brown. Gordon Brown would be known to all of you. He was Chancellor of the Exchequer, he was Prime Minister, but he's now age 75, still making very important contributions to public debate. Not least with this book, which reminds me, Gordon, of the days working on speeches and articles with you, because it's very similar. It's full of big arguments, it's rammed with Facts and statistics. But it's also it tries to have solutions to the challenges facing the world. So thanks for the one th Well the
Gordon Brown 3:04
one thing that is different about it uh from the past is that we've surveyed a hundred thousand people in thirty-four countries to ask them their views about both their hopes, their fears, uh but also their aspirations uh about the kind of future they want. People feel that the world order is broken. They also feel that there's a civic recession, that in their own communities The organizations that used to speak up for them are not there in the same way in the past. So we've got two big events, if you like. One is the breakup of the world order, which we can see around us every day with wars and everything else. And two, we've got a civic recession. And what we've found is something quite fascinating that those people who are involved in the local communities, and particularly those people who are meeting people across ethnic and religious uh
Gordon Brown 3:53
divides are the people who are most likely to resist populist nationalists, particularly of course, we see that across Europe with Germany only in the last few days, and are most likely to favor international cooperation.

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