493. Trump Insults NATO Troops
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Welcome to The Rest Is Politics with me, Alistair Campbell.
And welcome to The Rest Is Politics US with me, Anthony Scaramucci.
And the reason that we're doing this joint collaboration live on a Friday is we've both been in Davos. I, for one, was up for a very nice, quiet day, catching up with everything back home, added to which both of us have been putting out a lot of content this week. But I'm afraid I, for one, cannot stay silent on something Donald Trump said on his beloved Fox News last night as he continues to denigrate NATO and their allies. Let me just read you what he said. Talking about Afghanistan and NATO and the Alliance. Will they, troops, be there if we ever need them? We've never needed them. We've never really asked anything of them. They'll say they sent some troops to Afghanistan or this or that. And they did.
They stayed a little back, a little off the front lines. But we've been very good to Europe and many other countries. Now, this from a man who famously avoided the draft via his so-called bone spurs. So a few facts just before we let rip. One, the only time Article 5, which means an attack on one is an attack on all, has ever been invoked was by the states in the wake of 9-11 and the Afghanistan war that followed. The one he now says we held back from the front line. Two lost soldiers in that war. In our case, 457. Only America suffered a greater numerical loss. And Denmark, who has been abusing all week over Greenland, they lost 43 troops, which is a percentage of their population is on a par with the States.
Canada, France, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Poland, Spain, Romania, Netherlands, Turkey, Czech Republic, Norway, Estonia, Hungary. Georgia actually lost more per capita population than all of them. And I know none of his new border peace friends in there. So to me, for him to think it, let alone say it, in such a dismissive, casual way is disgusting. He's done a lot to make my blood boil over the years, Mooch, but this is right up there. And my phone has been ringing and pinging with real anger from ex and current military, including a friend who's in the Special Forces who's operating alongside Americans right now and tells me they are disgusted too. And I just want to – I really want every NATO leader, and I think this should happen, and I understand how difficult it is to deal with Trump, but I think every one of them should unite to demand an apology because if not, he's just going to get worse and worse and worse.
But tell me, Anthony, tell me this. What on earth goes through his head when something like that comes out?
First of all, the big problem, Alistair, is because he's the leader of the United States and the democratically elected leader – His voice has more residence than more normal voices.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:58
2
Why did Trump insult NATO troops?
0:58–16:05
3
What was the reaction of NATO leaders to Trump's comments?
16:05–23:23
4
How has Trump's behavior affected the perception of NATO?
23:23–27:45
5
What does Trump's rhetoric reveal about his leadership style?
27:45–28:25
Speakers
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