559. Who Really Benefits from the Ceuta Migration Crisis?

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What happened in Ceuta and why did 50,000 people cross in one day?

Alastair Campbell 0:01
You've all no doubt been following events in Ceuta. As many as 50,000 people swing from Morocco into this small Spanish enclave in the space of a single day, and dozens dying en route. Immediately on seeing the pictures that we've all now seen, many of the world's politicians rushed in. It's an invasion. Let's blame weak borders, blame Spain, blame Morocco, blame the migrants, blame anyone. But there is another bigger question I think worth asking. Who actually gained from what happened here? Maybe the people smugglers that Spain blames for orchestrating it, but I'm not so sure. But there's a second set of winners, most of them far away from the waters around Ceuta. The far right round the globe using this tragedy to further their agenda on immigration.
Alastair Campbell 0:46
Donald Trump using it to needle Spain over their stance on Gaza and Iran. Benjamin Netanyahu ditto. Putin's disinformation network, which moved on this story so fast and so hard, I just wondered if they knew what was coming. Italy's Prime Minister, Giorgia Maloney, invoking it to push for tighter internal EU borders, despite this having nothing to do with European free movement. Back home, Reform and the Conservatives both claiming that the Moroccan migrants were heading for Britain, the AFD in Germany saying they were heading for Germany, and the Rassemblement National in France, they were heading for France. This is the three Ps at work. Populism, polarization, post-truth. And if a rumor can move tens of thousands of people and reshape a continent's political dialogue in a single day, what does that say about the immigration debate, immigration policy,
Alastair Campbell 1:45
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Rory Stewart 4:02
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