Why Do We Like Staring Into Fire?

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What exactly is fire and how does it differ from a gas or plasma?

Michael Stevens 0:01
Welcome to the Rest of Science. I'm Hannah Fry. And I am Michael Stevens. Today I want to talk about fire. Yes, please. Okay. A lot of people ask what is fire?
Unknown 0:11
Mm-hmm.
Michael Stevens 0:12
And today I'm gonna argue that it's not a gas, it's not a plasma, it's not a liquid. Fire is the great grandmother of social media.
Professor Hannah Fry 0:25
Michael, you you are genuinely one of the best people on earth.
Michael Stevens 0:29
Wait until you listen to the episode before you make any kind of judgment. All right,
Professor Hannah Fry 0:34
deal.
Michael Stevens 0:39
This episode is brought to you by Cancer Research UK.
Professor Hannah Fry 0:42
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Michael Stevens 0:54
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Professor Hannah Fry 1:01
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Michael Stevens 1:15
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Professor Hannah Fry 1:26
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Michael Stevens 1:45
I mean, let's just begin with like what fire is. I I've made a lot of shorts about fire, and this is my chance to really clarify, solidify, and calcify my stance on fire. First of all, what would you say fire is? Like your daughter asks you, one of your daughters asks, What is fire? Is it a is it a gas? Is it a is it electricity?
Professor Hannah Fry 2:08
No, I mean I think it's it's it's the energy given off by a chemical reaction. Yeah.
Michael Stevens 2:12
Essentially. Yeah. It it's a chemical reaction. Yeah. So it isn't like one thing the way gold is one thing. It's one kind of atom. Fire is a whole lot of stuff going on. And what exactly is in it depends on what's burning. So it's it's uh that that's kind of the key. I c I think asking what is fire is like asking what is
Professor Hannah Fry 2:36
like foaming or fizzing.
Michael Stevens 2:38
Yeah. Like when you mix vinegar and baking soda and you shake it up and you look at the whole thing and you say, What is that? We don't say, Oh, that's blue ba You know, we don't need to give it one noun. We say that it's a process. It's a thing that's happening. We've got bubbles of gas and we've got the vinegar in the baking soda mixing and then there's some water being produced, whatever. And and everyone leaves it at that. But fire
Professor Hannah Fry 3:01
see it as a verb rather than a noun.
Michael Stevens 3:02
That's right, but we see fire as a noun. It it fire is a noun. It can also be a verb. You can fire something. Can you fire someone. Okay, let's walk through the steps, okay? 'Cause fire is is is at least two different things, depending on where you think the fire begins and ends. For those of you that aren't uh that haven't watched every single short I've ever made, or don't already know what what the fire triangle is, it's the three things fire needs to happen. Because fire is a chemical reaction known as combustion. And you need to have three things for there to be a fire. Or do you? We'll get to that later. Okay, so you need fuel, you need heat, and you need oxygen. Take away any of the three, just one of the three, no combustion.
Michael Stevens 3:47
Which is how putting out fires work. Exactly. So you've got some fuel. Let's say it's your house. It gets hot enough, there's oxygen around, there's a house fire. How do you put it out? Well, you need to get rid of one of those three points of the triangle. You get rid of the fuel. We do that when there's a wildfire and we start like clearing the brush and creating a a perimeter around the fire where the flames just are gonna run out of fuel because they're gonna hit like dirt. If you want to get rid of the heat, water. Is perfect for that. That's why we put water on fires. Because the water absorbs so much heat, the fuel goes, Ah, there's not enough left for me to react with oxygen.

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