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The Rewatchables

‘Basic Instinct’ Live From SF With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Van Lathan

14 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

20.703 - 54.499 Mallory Rubin

All right. Last time you heard this song, it was a cocaine threesome in a bathroom followed by some dancing. And now we are here, you horny motherfuckers. Let me introduce the Rewatchables cast. First of all, thank you, everybody, for coming out tonight.

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Chapter 2: Who are the main cast members introduced in the podcast?

54.539 - 88.893 Mallory Rubin

This theater is awesome. Thank you. I love that third deck up there. It's great. First off, he's the curator of the White Girl Hall of Fame. He's currently hosting a record 17 different ringer podcasts. The next mayor of Los Angeles, Van Lathan. Woo! You know her as the Mother of Dragons. She's a woman who really likes hands and fingers.

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90.555 - 123.829 Mallory Rubin

She's almost definitely gonna violate a public obscenity law tonight. Mallory Rubin! He's the five-time Rewatchables MVP. He's the man who turned March into CR month. He's the author of three books about metals, CR himself, Chris Ryan.

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123.849 - 140.472 Mallory Rubin

And over on the side, for the first time ever joining us for a live show, our producer, the guy who's taken over this podcast after I'm found naked and dead like Johnny Boz, Craig Horvath.

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140.492 - 147.833 Chris Ryan

Yeah. All right. Do you like that, CR? I do. I like the idea also that you're not killed by a beautiful blonde, but by a Lakers fan.

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148.694 - 153.06 Mallory Rubin

Thank you. Let's talk most San Francisco movies ever. Yeah.

153.521 - 153.761 Unknown

Wow.

154.241 - 166.438 Mallory Rubin

CR, we talked about this earlier. I think the necessities are hills. Yeah. Water. Sure. Shots of the bridge and nice real estate. Anything else? What do you got?

166.857 - 179.738 Chris Ryan

I just think that the sky, the light, the fog, there's like an atmospheric element that San Francisco movies tend to bring into play. I mean, you've got some real... We were talking about how hard it is to move anything off of Mount Rushmore for these.

180.179 - 189.294 Mallory Rubin

Yeah, so we got... We were thinking like movies that actually use the city. And it's really cool doing this, you know, in San Francisco, obviously. Movies that make you feel like you're in San Francisco.

Chapter 3: What are the most iconic San Francisco movies mentioned?

431.994 - 440.864 Bill Simmons

Every story he tells from him in college, it was me, House, and Joe King. We were all hanging out. But he made them motherfuckers leave. It was a solo.

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441.825 - 447.452 Unknown

How many empty seats between you and the next guy who was also jerking off throughout the entire movie?

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449.254 - 460.995 Mallory Rubin

Extra butter. I don't remember a lot other than that There were no couples. And I'm going to say between 16 and 18 guys soloing in different spots in the theater.

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461.015 - 462.516 Unknown

There you go.

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462.536 - 481.9 Mallory Rubin

And it just, the feedback or the stuff that was coming out about this movie. First of all, we knew like the nude scenes were off the chain. We knew Sharon Stone was the lady from Total Recall and some Action Jackson movies we liked. And then there was supposedly... this female frontal thing that you didn't know what it was.

481.96 - 486.967 Mallory Rubin

So it was a little like the shark in Jaws waiting to see what was going to happen.

487.908 - 491.654 Chris Ryan

But if you didn't know you were going to get a shark in Jaws, it was just a rumor.

493.136 - 501.388 Mallory Rubin

And honestly, CR, this movie went way further than I was prepared. But you saw it younger than me because you're younger than me.

501.408 - 517.649 Chris Ryan

Yeah, we were like Dan Orlovsky breaking down tape with this scene. Once they hit the video stores, there was a lot of missing copies of this. And there was a lot of probably like, you know, manipulating the tracking on your VHS machine. So this was a Hall of Fame rental.

Chapter 4: How does Basic Instinct influence the erotic thriller genre?

848.304 - 852.188 Bill Simmons

It would be difficult to cast somebody in that role and have them just be completely free.

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852.252 - 859.728 Unknown

I know we always end up picking the same person, but is it not Sydney Sweeney? Is it not?

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859.768 - 875.31 Mallory Rubin

I mean, obviously she could pull it off. I think... So... Wow. Here's the difference though with Sharon Stone and why this movie was so important. She'd popped in stuff, but we didn't really have a history with her.

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876.452 - 879.236 Chris Ryan

She was like, she had been in a bunch of stuff. She was in Action Jackson.

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879.557 - 892.457 Mallory Rubin

Yeah. And I remember like she was in a Reconcilable Differences, which is a great divorce movie, which is not available anywhere. But she was in that in like 1982. Right on you. And for 10 years was just bouncing around. What was the Alan Quartermain one?

892.497 - 893.498 Chris Ryan

She was in a Steven Seagal.

893.699 - 900.248 Mallory Rubin

Yeah, she was in a Seagal movie. And just Total Recall was probably the biggest movie that she was in, right?

900.368 - 901.049 Bill Simmons

She's great in that.

901.59 - 904.133 Mallory Rubin

So this was kind of her moment. I don't know who that actress is now.

Chapter 5: What are the best cigarette moments in Basic Instinct?

3715.95 - 3716.972 Van Lathan

Yeah.

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3716.992 - 3721.178 Bill Simmons

But I was there for nine years. It's not going to work out.

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3721.198 - 3725.625 Mallory Rubin

I had Johnny Boz's apartment, which has a Picasso.

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3726.866 - 3728.268 Unknown

Yeah. Yeah. And Catherine has a Picasso.

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3728.308 - 3753.622 Mallory Rubin

And also no maid service. Yeah. I really like Michael Douglas. I have down his hesitation. I can't believe this broad laugh that he does where he's just like, Drinking a paper cup of water. Yeah, yeah. It's like his little weird flirty thing. Except the Nick Catherine exchanges. Fuck like minx, raise rugrats, live happily ever after. Like, there's just like good screenwriting stuff in this.

3753.682 - 3777.769 Mallory Rubin

And then, Mal, I can't believe you didn't mention this. Well, she got that Magna Cunladi pussy on her. Don't fry up her brain. Yeah. Just some of the George Zunza. He plays Gus. Incredible. Gus, like, you know he's dead the moment you see him. You're like, this guy's overweight. He's a buddy. He's going to drink too much. He'll make it. You do the pool. He's going to be 18 minutes left.

3777.789 - 3778.229 Mallory Rubin

He'll be dead.

Chapter 6: How do props influence the plot in Basic Instinct?

3778.75 - 3802.376 Mallory Rubin

You know what's happening. Pre-tech San Francisco. Yeah. I would also put in there. San Francisco. San Francisco. I used to come here a lot in the 90s because some of my best high school college friends lived here. And San Francisco was fucking awesome in the 90s. And it was a great place for young people. It was really cool. And obviously has gone through a lot of transformations over the years.

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3802.416 - 3805.582 Mallory Rubin

But just seeing it, don't make a face, man.

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3806.603 - 3811.511 Bill Simmons

I'm saying you're buying into the propaganda. The fucking shit is beautiful. I've seen that fucking building.

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3811.732 - 3812.012 Unknown

Gorgeous city.

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3813.443 - 3826.626 Bill Simmons

What's that pointy building? What's it called? The pointy one from Star Trek. Do y'all know the name of the pointy one? I seen that bitch. Transamerica, whatever the fuck. I saw that. I was like, yo, man, this shit is crazy.

3828.226 - 3829.929 Mallory Rubin

Are we done with What Saged the Best? Can we move on?

3829.949 - 3844.976 Chris Ryan

I had one thing, which was... For me, it took a bunch of viewings to notice this. There is a brief moment when Douglas goes to Beth's house. He's like, come in, and she's like, oh, my lock is broken.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of Nick's relationship with Catherine?

3844.996 - 3854.771 Chris Ryan

Yes. And it's like basically the only detail you get that Catherine has set Beth up this entire time and is like placing articles in her house and shit.

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3854.811 - 3856.554 Unknown

Gotta put that revolver behind the bookcase.

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3856.714 - 3864.105 Chris Ryan

Beth, change your locks, maybe, but like, it's a great, otherwise the whole movie almost falls apart at the end, which it kind of doesn't.

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3865.047 - 3867.753 Mallory Rubin

Did you have another great shot, Gordo, for best shot?

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3868.575 - 3882.247 Chris Ryan

There's a bunch of really cool shit in here. Yondaban's really good. But the push in on Catherine saying I'd have to be pretty stupid to write a book about killing and then kill him the same way I described in my book. And she's saying it to the audience where it's like almost breaking the fourth wall.

3882.307 - 3906.718 Mallory Rubin

Right. We don't get to give this out a lot, the Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Piece of Real Estate. Catherine's House. Yes. So the exterior is in Stinson Beach, and then the interior stuff was in Carmel-by-the-Sea, which is not that close to here. About 35 mil right now for this one. Great bay window, great deck, easy access to a completely scary beach.

3906.838 - 3912.868 Mallory Rubin

You just feel like you can die as you're going on a walk. C.R., you have a flex category. What do you got?

3913.049 - 3930.947 Chris Ryan

Yeah, I mean, you guys tell me. I feel like the Ed Norton Reverse Dunk Award did this movie need a random sports scene. There's a little bit of Niners, like, at the end, like, at the diner and stuff, but could we not get George Seifert in this movie somehow? Because you were still cooking back then.

3932.311 - 3937.178 Mallory Rubin

What do you mean, like, Nick goes to, like, a Niners practice and has, like, young Montana thoughts?

Chapter 8: How does San Francisco serve as a character in Basic Instinct?

3941.764 - 3957.306 Bill Simmons

Oh, I got one. Karen used to fuck somebody on the Niners. Oh. Oh, Karen. Catherine. I'm drunk. Catherine used to, like, white woman, Karen, whatever. So she used to fuck somebody on the Niners, so they go to interview him, and it's Jerry Rice. Exactly.

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3959.513 - 3962.537 Chris Ryan

And the name of her new novel is Rice. Right.

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3964.5 - 3970.588 Mallory Rubin

Mallory, you don't get a flex because you have your own award, the Mallory Rubin Award for did this movie need a better sex scene?

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3971.509 - 3971.97 Bill Simmons

Oh, shit.

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3972.11 - 3990.936 Unknown

Okay. Well, like a third of the runtime is sex scenes, basically, right? We have the opening boss scene. We have Nick. I'll incorporate some just nudity that's very central as well. Nick watching Catherine change in the mirror for the first time. The Nick-Beth rape scene, we could make that better by not having it or not doing it that way, I'd say.

3992.058 - 4007.121 Unknown

Nick watching Catherine change again through the large, beautiful picture windows that you were just commenting on with the real estate, right? And reasonable to assume that she knows he's there, so put a pin in that. I'll be coming back to that in a second. We've got the fuck of the century. The fireplace chase scene.

4007.141 - 4012.048 Unknown

So we enter a different point in the movie now where we're, like, not seeing the sex, right?

4012.028 - 4013.591 Mallory Rubin

Right. They've worn us out.

4013.931 - 4030.26 Unknown

Make love to me. And then we cut and they're cuddling in front of the fire. It's like, this is not the movie that I signed up to watch. Why am I not seeing every second of that? And it ends up being very relevant because that's when she's planting the Lisa nuggets about Beth in this vulnerable moment. Then we get Catherine at Nick's apartment, some nudity.

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